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The Torry Holt trade that could have been versus the one the might be

Yesterday, we learned that, possibly, the Rams had been offered a first round pick, probably from the Titans, for Torry Holt ahead of last year's trade deadline, but decided to hang on to him. Of course, that's not 100%, but if true and the Rams lose Holt outright, well, the "coulda been" of another first round draft pick will stand as the final insult from the old regime.

Now, the team faces the possibility of Holt becoming a cap casualty. What if Holt landed in Tennessee anyway? That's a possibility. Terry McCormick of the Nashville City Paper sees the fit for the Titans. Ouch. 

In truth, Holt's a perfect fit for a team like the Titans, a Super Bowl candidate in need of a skilled veteran here and there. For Holt, it would give him one more shot at a title in his waning years. Whereas the Rams, let's face it, will still be a few players short of the Super Bowl even after the draft and free agency; Holt would just be squandered cap space give our team needs. It's not that we don't have a special place in our memory for Holt, it's that we need to get on with the business of rebuilding a winning franchise. There's plenty of room for remembering the past in a good book

Of course they might still have a chance to trade him too, with teams sure to be overpaying for lesser players than Holt, that's a real possibility. Supposedly, the Rams will look for a third round pick in return, and that wouldn't be a bad thing at all...just not the first round pick that might have been.

Tackle Box is playing GM, and he started his impersonation by laying out a course for netting the Rams an offensive tackle. Don't miss this. 

 

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1st rounder

That hurts. Obviously, mgmt thought we’d be a lot better than we actually were last year. I would love to have two first rounders in this year’s draft. That would really change what we could do. You can get crazy with two first round picks.

by Toddius on Feb 9, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

My guess on why they said no

To Zygmunt, a first rounder from the Titans probably wasn’t good enough a return for Holt. I mean, the Titans were undefeated at the time, and even with the quarterback turmoil still brewing when this offer might have been made around Week 4, they looked a solid bet to finish in the playoffs and generate a pick in the mid 20s at the very worst. A low first round pick isn’t worth much more than a second round pick on the value chart. Never mind the fact that a second rounder would have been generous for Holt given his age and contract…

It’s a stupendously stupid decision on their part that offers no upside to the team whatsover, but I’ll bet dollars to donuts that this was their thought process.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Feb 9, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

A first round pick is a first round pick

We would have had 2 first round picks and a high 2nd round pick.

If they offered him up today, they’d be lucky to get a 3rd rounder (well, possibly Tennessee’s late 2nd round pick). When the Rams traded for Marshall Faulk, it cost them a 2nd and a 5th rounder. Faulk was much better back then then Holt is right now. Faulk was coming in to be the feature running back while Holt would be going to Tennessee to be a 2nd or 3rd receiver.

Aeneas Williams netted a 2nd and a 4th rounder for Arizona.

At this time, teams are much more protective of their 1st round picks. You won’t see one moved unless it’s for another 1st round pick and it involves teams switching draft slots.

The reason the Titans offered their 1st round pick was because they were in “win-now” mode and were trying to bolster their offense to make a Super Bowl push. That opportunity is long gone.

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by Tackle Box on Feb 9, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad you weren't in Zygmunt's ear when the deal was on the table.

It’s unfathomable that they would have turned this down. Thank god they’re gone.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Feb 9, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it should have been done

We all knew last year’s team had no hope of competing. They should have jumped on a first round pick, but oh well……

A teenage boy with a sprit inside
Of a Samurai warrior who long ago died.
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O....O....O....O Oshikuru!
My oh My he's a demon Samurai
Who's the guy who had to die.......Oshikuru!

by Tackle Box on Feb 9, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bigwood25 plays GM...

Cut Torry and get that extra cash (but keep Pace at least one more year).

Draft Michael Crabtree #2 overall. With Jax, Crabtree, and Donnie “A Game,” we’ll be set with offensive playmakers for the next 5 years.

Immediately address OT in Round 2.

Use the rest of the draft stockpiling defensive players.

Trade for Philly QB Kolb,
or sign Chris Simms…two fairly young guys with upside and West Coast offense know-how [someone to put pressure on Bulger to do SOMETHING (beside not suck) this year.

Just my $0.02

by bigwood25 on Feb 9, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

strike77

completely agree with Bigwood25

by strike77 on Feb 9, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

QBs

Kolb is too valuable to Philadelphia right now, and Simms… do you have to trade for a corpse? I thought med students could go get them for free.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Feb 9, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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