Finding the next Rams & college game day open thread
by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 5, 2009 10:00 AM CST
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PrintThere's some pretty good college football happening today. Besides what should be some great games, there's plenty of NFL talent on display, some of these players could very well be part of the St. Louis Rams a year from now. Let's take a look at some of the names and games going on today in our college football, conference championship open thread.
Florida vs Alabama
Does this game need much of an intro? With apologies to Texas fans, many are calling this the de facto national championship game, and for good reason since it matches up two undefeated SEC powerhouses with the winner going on to play in the BCS national championship, probably against Texas.
Gators CB Joe Haden is the top corner in the draft, and a certain first round pick now that he's unofficially announced his intention to go to the NFL, via his family telling the media that he's likely played his last game at the Swamp.
Keep an eye on Florida junior DT Lawrence Marsh who had 4 tackles against Alabama in last year's SEC title game. He's not a first two rounds type guy, but could be a sneaky late round pick for a team like the Rams wanting quality depth at the position and a coach known for making those kind of players into useful defensive contributors. Watch him against the run, Florida uses him as a NT.
Houston vs East Carolina
Houston QB Case Keenum has some gaudy stats that have put him in Heisman contention. Do the numbers translate to an NFL career?
DE C.J. Wilson is the man to watch for East Carolina. He's fallen off his impressive junior campaign that had 10.5 sacks, but could still be a mid round pick.
Cincinnati vs Pittsburgh
If you're an advocate of a 2nd round QB pick for the Rams then you need to watch Cincy QB Tony Pike today. He's an impressive guy whose biggest weakness is a lack of arm strength. I think he might be quick enough and mobile enough for a West Coast system, if he can manage to get the ball downfield enough to be a threat. Pat Shurmur had a great reputation as a QB coach in Philly, so his presence could help the Rams develop a QB like Pike.
Cincy WR Marshawn Gilyard has been a frequent target of Pike in the spread offense, the "s" word. Is he a system guy or can he have an impact at the NFL level? He might not have the size for a #1 WR role.
Texas vs Nebraska
Ok, you know the big names here, so there's no need to get repetitive. Keep an eye on Suh and McCoy. Lots of people think McCoy is nothing better than an NFL backup, but some think he could play at the pro level. Blame the spread offense for such reactions.
Texas OLB Roddrick Muckelroy came up this week in a mock draft that had him going to the Rams in the third round. I think that would be winning pick. He seems to always be around the ball and can play in coverage well too, something the Rams could use among their OLBs. Remember, Spagnuolo has a stated preference for finding mid round LBs and molding them.
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Pike and Cincy are in a shoot out
Pike’s driving in the 4th. be interesting to see if he can lead his team to the end zone down by 8
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That was a great game
Cincy comes back to win. Pike’s lack of arm strength showed to me. He cannot throw off his back foot. He did not have a very good game, but he did lead them to victory and came up big at the end. Gilyard had a big game.
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Definitely a great game
Strangely, the player I came away most impressed with was Pitt’s freshman RB Dion Lewis. He’s had a hell of a season, and he played a great game on a big stage. I’m eager to see what he and sophomore WR Jonathan Baldwin can do for Pitt next year.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Dec 5, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Baldwin
has looked like something special this year. I don’t think I would be disappointed if he ended up wearing blue and gold in the future.
I'm excited about the WRs next year
Lots of number 1 guys. Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Michael Floyd, and Jonathan Baldwin could all fill that #1 WR role. We have to get (at least) one of these four guys.
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The guy that
I will keep an eye on is Florida’s Brandon Spikes. A versatile LB that plays the run very well. I am hoping they let him line up outside the tackle and do some pass rushing. Can we see a SAM in the future.
He's incredibly talented
But given how high he comes off, I don’t think he’ll play on the outside. Someone is going to take him early to play the Mike.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Dec 5, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody still hankering for Tebow?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
McCoy isn't looking too good.
2 interceptions halfway through the first quarter. Suh looks pretty good so far, he just collapses the pocket. He has a sack already.
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all that what happens if Texas loses talk could come to pass after all
I really thought this would be a nothing game fot TX
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 5, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Noel Devine?
What do you guys think of Noel Devine as the backup change of pace running back to SJax?I think he and CJ Spiller are pretty similar except that Spiller will more than likely go in the 1st round.
by revrue914 on Dec 5, 2009 8:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd love to have him
He’s pretty much a cheaper Darren Sproles. He’d be a great complement to Jackson. He could also be our returner and we could be creative with him on offense.
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Suh+Long+Laurenitis+OJ+J.Butler=top 10 Defense in '10
DE Crickett from Nebraska is looking really good too and I’m just wondering if he’s having success because of Suh. If he is then I can just imagine how Suh can take pressure off of Long and make for a very dominating Dline. I still believe in Long and am jumping on the draft Suh bandwagon!!!! He just tackled McCoy with one arm while pushing off the offensive linemen.
by revrue914 on Dec 5, 2009 8:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We still need to be able to cover WRs.
There are no CBs on that list, and Bartell is just about our only CB, other than maybe Fletcher if he can come back full strength. There is also only one LB. There are still too many wholes to call it a top 10 defense. Suh+Long+Lauranitus+Atogwe+Butler+Derrick Morgan+Muckelroy+Derrick Johnson+ Top FA CB = top 10 defense. And that is all do-able, and we’ll still have 4 picks left after we trade one for Erik Ainge and use our 4th rounder for Noel Devine.. That would be a great offseason in my opinion. On offense all we need is a QB and a non-Shurmur OC.
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Wow Suh.....
It should be 4 full sacks. Unreal.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
by TrojanRam on Dec 5, 2009 9:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
He's still got time for another sack and a half
I wanted him before this game, and now I really, really want him
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This game was his "pre-combine"
All I can say is, he is a monster. If we get the #1 pick, and don’t take SUH I will have serious doubts about our front office.
This is similar to when Shaq came out. No brainer, and a need… there’s QB’s available in later rounds, and Tebow and McCoy did nothing to raise their stock… we’ll see what McCoy does in the BCS game.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
College football needs two awards
One for the major media outlets to give, and one for people who know better. Here’s the reality: it’s unfair to give the preeminent award in college football to Tim Tebow, Mark Ingram or Colt McCoy simply because the big boys love marketing their coverage of those guys while ignoring what Ndamokung Suh and Toby Gerhart have achieved.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
That was due to two Cards on the list
In sum the Cardinals destroyed Lincecum. Be proud fans of the Red Birds.
by BruinHalo on Dec 6, 2009 2:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Suh just played himself into my heart...
…no homo. That was an amazing performance. The Nebraska D almost single-handedly won the game. Ndamukong Suh made tackles at or behind the LOS, sacks, unreal.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
by TrojanRam on Dec 5, 2009 10:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
So I guess
this means you guys agree with Suh atop my DT board?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
I would
let Suh take my girlfriend out for a nice steak dinner. I would wake up early to help him move next weekend. I would loan him a hundred bucks. I would let him borrow my car. I would let him have my only umbrella if we were caught in a downpour. I would pick him up from the airport.
by mooseknuckles41 on Dec 6, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would...
let Spags cut Amendola. How much do I like SUH 3k?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Suh's a Beast
Wow , can u amagine Suh on the Rams defensive line. This kid can’t be touched. Double teams can’t stop him. He’s strong as a bull with a motor. Just what Spags like and needs. IMO #1 pick by the Rams off the top. Pike seems like a safe 2nd rounder. But I don’t see a QB in this draft worth junking Bulger over just yet. It will be an interesting offseason. As always GO RAMS !!!!!
by RamMan1 on Dec 6, 2009 2:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
The scary part is
with a strong push up the middle, you could see Long start to have monster games as well. If we draft SUH that could push our D to top 10 or better within a year.
Teams would HAVE to double him, no question.
Suh, JL, Long, OJ…. interesting for sure.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Yeah, I actually told my friends...
…“watch this with me, this kid is good.” I hyped Suh so much before the game (one is a Cards fan, one is a 49er fan), and they hadn’t seen him play. Naturally, they said “he can’t be THAT good.” Their jaws dropped.
12 tackles, 7 Tackles for a Loss, 4.5 sacks, 2 Hurries
Against the best O-Line he’s faced all year, all they could say is “I want this guy on my team.”
To which I responded: “Thankfully, you bitches aren’t in the running.”
Go Rams!!! Pardon my French.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
I'm glad all of you
ppl who didn’t get a chance to see Suh before this game enjoyed. Easy to see why I thought he is in a higher level than McCoy and any other D player. He will change our defense. We’re still gonna need a DE tho….
Thank You VTRams!
I said the exact same thing in one of my previous posts. If only we can get a decent CB that can hold his own, I think our team will b in stride for a faster turn around. I see the Rams being a Baltimore Raven type of team that runs the ball and has a ball hawking, sack attacking Defense if we get Suh. McCoy is good too and I think he can have a similar type of impact Suh would have as far as double teams are concerned which will open up holes for Long to run through.
As far as this season on the offensive side, I’d still like to see Keith Null get some PT to see what the kid has.
Don’t worry Rams fans, we’ve stuck with them through the worst of times and it can only get better! Go Rams and beat them Bears!!!
by revrue914 on Dec 6, 2009 9:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Don't worry he'll get PT when we're beating the Bears by 20 today.
Suh has my giddy for draft day. Win some more games TB. If I understand correctly, if we tie with TB in record, they automatically get the first pick due to strength of schedule. So TB needs to win 1-2 more games. The Browns would also pick ahead of us. I don’t know who they’d pick, but the Buccs definitely need to win more.
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You're right
Our schedule is most likely going to end up tougher than Tampa’s or Cleveland’s. So to have the #1 overall pick, they need to have at least one more win than us.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Dec 6, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Suh is the best
If we have a chance to get Suh, I would take him in a heartbeat!
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