Rams going with a QB, DE and OLB in early mock draft
Who's ready for a mock draft? I thought so. With the St. Louis Rams sitting at 1-10, it's a great time to take a look at some of the mock drafts out there and start getting some fodder for discussion.
Browsing around Walter Football this morning looking at prospect rankings, I checked out their mock draft, which was last updated today. Their mock has the Rams addressing three key needs through the first three rounds. Given the success of the first three round picks in 2009, it's an encouraging sight to see. (Of course Bradley Fletcher, er, I mean Fletcher Bradley has had an injury derail his season). Alright, here are the Rams first three picks from Walter Football:
Round 1, #3: Jake Locker, QB, Washington
Marc Bulger suffers a season-ending injury the week after Peter Petrelli loses his healing abilities... coincidence? Probably.
It'll be shocking if Bulger is back in 2010, and Kyle Boller certainly isn't the answer. The Rams need a franchise quarterback. The question is which guy they'll select.
If Jimmy Clausen is off the board, Jake Locker will be the guy; he has moved ahead of Sam Bradford in the wake of Bradford's multiple shoulder injuries.
Round 2, #34: Everson Griffen, DE, USC
Aside from Chris Long, all of the Rams defensive ends will be free agents in March. St. Louis needs to get more than 18 sacks on opposing quarterbacks anyhow.
Round 3, #65: Roddrick Muckelroy, OLB, Texas
The Rams traded Will Witherspoon to the Eagles, so their current starting weakside linebacker is Paris Lenon. It doesn't get much worse than that.
Full disclosure, I don't know much about Muckelroy at all. Aside from that tiny little detail, I like this draft. The one thing you could make a case for is throwing a WR in the mix, maybe Brandon LaFell from LSU, who they have going in the second round. Of course, in a year deep with DL talent, getting Griffen in the second round is hardly a bad deal. This approach would necessitate some important moves in free agency, most notably signing a DT and a WR.
What do you think about these picks? Is this a reasonable route to pursue for the Rams? If it shook out like this in April, would you be disappointed?
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Everson has made significant strides this year...
…and getting him in round 2 would be GREAT. He’s a freak of nature physically. We need some Trojans on this team.
However, I don’t think Locker is the best choice IF we are getting a QB in Round 1.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
Agreed
Locker is awful 17Tds vs. 10Ints? Huh? No way do we pick this guy. We will wait until the 2nd or 3rd round for a QB.
Everson Griffen
was at a football camp for my kids youth football league, he’s def a high character guy. He was great with the kids and was very patient with them. Oh, he has a lot of talent too. If we can land him, he and Long will be set for years…………
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Locker's my favorite QB
Of course I grew up 30 minutes away from where UW plays but as much as I like him, He isn’t that polished to be picked that high. No way.
I believe in 2010
He's a good Qb...
…but 3rd overall? I think Mid-First would be better.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
haha locker is a beast
locker has to the tools to be great. size runs a 4.4 made incredible strides in the west coast offense for 1 year under sarkasian.. hes raw talent but if i were him id stay another year to perfect the west coast and than hes a lock top 5 pick next year he still should go top 10 if he enters draft…. oh by the way football isnt even his best sport
he has talent
the lack of receivers around him isn’t helping his case any. He does have a strong arm and can move. The TD/INT ratio is indicative of a kid who should probably stay in college another year, but probably won’t because the threat of changing the rookie pay scale. He needs to learn to read opponents better.
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Last thing we need is another rookie WR
let this group we have grow up together, I guarantee they will be much better next year. Amendola, Martin, and Gibson didnt even go through training camp with us, and they are our 3 best options after Avery (not including Robinson). If we get WR, we should get someone who has been in the league for a few years.
Not liking it
very much. In that scenerio we should pick up G. McCoy instead of QB in rd 1. Rd 2 I think Griffin would be great selection and address two very big needs; pass rush and run stop. I’m still deciding what we could use in the third… RB or OLB. RB I’d choose Dixon from MS State, OLB would be Quan Sturdivant from NC State.
Spags would make the greatest D-Line ever. :D
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
I wouldn't mind that at all
as long as we can find some suitable hole-fillers in FA
I believe in 2010
They have LeFevour going in the 6-7 rounds
If we’re still going according to Walter Football, which is usually what I go by. But I disagree with LeFevour’s spot.
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I do too
I don’t think he’ll last past the 4th.
Then again, he’s got two more games on national tv. He’ll play this weekend in the MAC Championship and then later in a Bowl. The MAC Championship is against Ohio (7 pm CST on espn2). Ohio is a good team that really doesn’t do anything great but they do just about everything well.
Their Bowl competition is up in the air. There were “speculations” they’d get Notre Dame in the Pizza Bowl, but now that ND chickened out, CMU’s going to have to play a less spot-light worthy team.
Either way, Lefevour has a great opportunity to really boost his draft stock. I think it dipped with the poor performance at BC a couple weeks ago.
Btw, the sports bar I go to to watch the Rams games every Sunday are kicking around the idea (I’m not positive if any progress has been made, it’s been about a month since the manager told me about it) at getting Lefevour to hold his draft party there. He went to high school about 20 minutes from where I live and when he’s in town, he’ll often stop by the sports bar.
How awesome would that be!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I watched Lefevour tonight.
Not impressed! Can be very accurate, but then misses some easy ones. Tries to run out of trouble too often instead of just throwing it away. He lost big yardage more than once this way. I also didn’t see much zip on his throws. Most of them seemed to be pretty soft tosses. Makes me wonder about his arm strength. Those soft passes will get him in big trouble in the pros.
ummm
didn’t Paris have 3 tackles and a forced fumble last week, and notably, a few other big plays this season?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
yep
it was kind of an ignorant statement on Walter’s part. Paris isn’t an ALl Pro but he;s played better than expected. Respectably, at least.
DE < DT
I won’t try to tell you that our DE’s would benefit much from having a stud DT in the middle, because Chris Long has been handled by TE’s on many occasions. With that, teams could’ve been focused on blocking the interior of our D line with double teams if they had to, and it wouldn’t have mattered for Chris at all. If we go get Suh, we’ll still have DE problems.
It’s different for LB’s. Strong DT’s (and DE’s for that matter) definitely help the LB/SS crew by soaking up blockers and allowing the second level guys to fly to the ball unobstructed. Simple math: double team a DT and that’s one Guard who isn’t in Laurenitis’s pads.
I can see the reasoning in thinking the Rams should pick a DE, since after the season’s over we’ll only have Long under contract, but I still don’t think that’s as big a need as a stud DT. And I think it’s harder to trade for a good DT, compared to DE. It varies a little by year, and by player (Jared Allen, etc) but generally DT is the position you build from. So, teams build solid cores and don’t want to mess it up.
I don’t think it’s worth spending a high pick an OLB without setting the DE’s first and, as I’ve said, I think DT is even more important than DE. A lower pick on a OLB? Sure. Top 3? Please, no…let’s set the middle, then the ends of the line first.
I think QB is our biggest need, but I would be thrilled to get Suh. I would even trade up to get him if it looks like that would be needed because he is just that dominant.
I know trading from 4 to 2 wouldn’t be very popular but the draft is a game you play to win, just like on Sundays, and Suh is a clear cut, dominant, can’t miss, fills-the-need type of guy that just happens to play in Spags’s specialty. Everything is right with that pick.
There’s not another player like that in the draft. I hope the coach’s defensive accumen leads them to play to his strengths and get him the pieces he knows how to use best.
The only thing is that it appears Spags likes the big boys
Or so the pundits have said. Suh isn’t exactly huge, so they may not want him.
I’m interested in seeing how Devaney can find after the draft…he’s picked up some good offensive prospects, but not too much on defense.
I believe in 2010
Spags also has utelized 4 DE's
So he’s at least open minded about mixxing it up.
Al Davis wants the biggest, the fastest, etc….so he might pass on Suh due to size….but what matters is does the guy love to play football, and is he straight ballin’. Suh is undeniably that guy and I would hope Spags doesn’t penalize him for not being the biggest DT
I agree with the possitions but i dont know who the best players are
we propobly will get the Top pic this year and we do need a QB so thats good that we get our choice and chance to get the best QB in the draft
SAM BRADFORD
all sam all day if spags dosent grab him it’d be a huge mistake he’s a beast and will be in the NFL as well, and don’t complain about his durability people said the same about adrian peterson and look at him.
Not saying we shouldn't draft Bradford (although I don't want him)
but just because Adrian Peterson overcame injury problems doesn’t mean everyone else who ever plays in the league will be able to. In my opinion, that argument holds no weight. What happens to someone else has absolutely nothing to do with someone else who is in the same situation.
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Not bad
I’m not big on the Locker pick, but if Griffen and Muckelroy drop that low, I’d be on board. We’ll get to see Muckelroy on the big stage in primetime on Saturday against the Suh-led Cornhuskers. Yippee
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
SO
you are saying, that you would be ok with passing on Dunlap if available in the 2nd round? They had him going to the raiders….
Dunlap takes plays off and
his work ethic is questionable. IMO, that reads like a wasted draft pick. Unmotivated players aren’t what we need, we’ve had enough of those.
If Tampa drafts before us they'll take Suh
Hopefully we stick to DT and get McCoy. I wouldn’t be too disappointed with Bradford but he’s the only QB worthy of such a high pick. I don’t endorse any QB in the 1st though. I like Morgan or Jean pierre-Paul for DE, as well as Griffen. Dunlap may fall to the 2nd, which I would take right up.
looks alright
i’d go Clausen over Locker if we can (althou if i was doin it, Bradford’d b my pick), dunno if i’d like to see a light quick guy added to the line when our run D needs some major help. Muckelroy could be sweet to get, but mayb go DT, QB, Muckelroy or just grab someone bigger in the second round.
think about Dez Bryant...
depending on where we pick in the first. 3rd is probably too high. but before this kid got absolutely hosed by the NCAA, he was blowing up. you can talk about his system and big 12 defenses, but he’s got the prototypical #1 WR make up. think about it. SJ to grind it out, donnie to break one long, and dez to out-muscle/jump people in the redzone (which we desperately need help with). im just sayin.
You are exactly right
He seems like a Calvin Johnson type pick. If it’s the right spot, he does great in workouts, he may be simply too good to pass up even though we may have needs elsewhere.
I believe in 2010
other than the Locker pick
i love the start to that draft. Walter Football usually has some great mocks and puts some effort into logically reasoning the picks.
No Danario Alexander in the first three rounds?
Sham. Dude is 6’4 and runs like the wind. There’s no way he gets out of the second round.
Its fun to speculate now
but the combine usually changes everything
unfortunately, you're right....
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I would like to see...
QB-DT-DE addressed in the draft and the WR addressed in FA.
Jeff Gordon (the Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for the Post-Dispatch)
made a comment last week about how the injury to Fletcher Bradley was a major blow to the team or something.
Just follow the link posted above where 3k brought it to our attention. Or read it in the real.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
My question
is if we don’t pick up a quarterback of the future this year then how long until we do? And for that matter who will be starting for us next year?
There are a couple of
pro’s we could trade for… B. Quinn, J Cutler, Campbell, T. Jackson to name a few. IMO Quinn would be the best prospect for us, we’ll know more as the draft approaches. Some ppl have the Browns taking another QB… they already have Quinn & Anderson on the roster. They’re gonna have to let at least one go for salary cap.
Jay Cutler just signed a 2 year extension.
Not only did he just extend out to 2013, but the Bears just gave up Kyle Orton and 2 first round draft picks to get him this past offseason.
What do you think we’d have to give up to get him if the Bears were to shop him?
(btw, they aren’t)
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I would like to see
RB addressed in free agency. Reggie Bush anyone?
The thing with signing free agents
is that they have to be free agents. And Reggie is not.
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Re: building Rams
We’re TWO years from contending (though I expect at least 6 wins next season)….
I don’t want Bradford. Not after seeing the way he was re-injured v. Texas. With only one full college season under his belt, I just don’t think he’s worth that high of a pick. I actually like Jimmy Clausen for our offense, so would be down with that. There’s been a lot of talk about Jake Locker from Washington, too, but I’m with many of you in thinking he’s just not Top 5 material. I think Ryan Mallett could eventually be a star and would be well-worth a mid-1st rd pick.
Ideally, I’d trade down a little, pick up another team’s first/second pick, and take LSU LB Kelvin Sheppard first, Florida TE Aaron Hernandez second, the best possible DT third, then trade our 3rd rd pick to Philly for Kevin Kolb, and let our new QB work with our developing WRs:
Laurent Robinson was looking like a steal from ATL until he went down for the year. Love his size and athleticism. Donnie Avery is a playmaker, but has had nagging leg/foot injuries this year and is much better suited to be a #2 deep-threat guy. Keenan Burton looks like a bust to me. Brandon Gibson, the guy we got in the Witherspoon trade, has shown glimpses of being really good. Throw in Amendola, who has been a pleasant surprise returning kicks and may be the poor man’s Wes Welker, and I actually like the four guys we’re putting out there.
"pick up another team’s first/second pick"
Are you suggesting there’s someone in the draft another team would be willing to swap first rounders and give up a 2nd round pick to acquire?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
there you go again
Are you suggesting that it isn’t possible? Cleveland and New England traded down last year. It’s been done every year. We all know it’s not likely likely these days, but for Christs sake, it can be done.
I really don't agree about Mallett.
He is a scatter-arm. His accuracy is terrible and his decision making is about as bad. Just because he is tall and has a strong arm, that doesn’t make him a good QB. I doubt he could beat out Null on our roster. He’ll be lucky to be drafted by the 4th round.
Clausen
Guys we all know Bulger sucks, we have to get a new QB, plus wouldn’t it be fun for once to have a big name QB come in as a rookie and have something to cheer about. Clausen was a huge name out of high school and has lived up to it in college. He never throws INT’s, is tough, and plays his best in the big moments. We are talking about a franchise QB in the making. We desperately need DL help but you can’t pass on a star QB that can lead your team into the future. Look at all the best teams over the past 10 years, Pats, Colts, Eagles, etc. they have stud QB’s and that is what we have to go with.
Say NO to QB at 3!
I don’t think there’s a quarterback out there worthy of even a top 15 choice much less number 3 overall.
I know it looks bleak at QB next year but don’t you think it’s better to get some quality DT, DE or WR at number 3 overall? Well, I do!
Go Rams!
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s
Can't wait too see next years quarterback
Who will it be playing for the Rams at the QB position?
boooooo bulger !!! no hope for him !!
i say we take mike vick and get rid of bulger !! bulger is washed up !!

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