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Rams 10, Cardinals 31: Postgame wrap

And so it goes. The St. Louis Rams lost their 14th game of the season, taking a commanding lead for the first overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft. It was another thrashing, but the overmatched Rams played hard for 60 minutes, reminding us that this group of young players - many of them nothing more than second stringers in reality - believes in the direction of the franchise and the vision instilled by their head coach. Yes, it's another loss - all losses are frustrating - but there is hope for the future of this team.

The future for Steven Jackson started today, as the Rams lone playmaker on offense rode the pine with a bum back. Jackson has become a sparkplug for the Rams, emerging as a not only the face of this team but its voice too. It's hard to watch the Rams without Jackson, but the team made the right call here, benching their bruised and battered superstar rather than play him behind a makeshift offensive line that didn't do well opening running lanes last week or this week. Playing Jackson today would have exposed him to greater risk for injury and potentially compromising his availability for next season, when the Rams hope to be a more competitive team. It probably would be smart to sit Jackson next week too; smart but joyless. I doubt the Rams would have scored any more points had Jackson been playing today.

Besides, it gave the powers that be a chance to evaluate the runners behind Jackson to see what they bring to the table before an offseason that includes backup running back near the top of the needs list. It was hard to tell just what Kenneth Darby or rookie Chris Ogbonnaya brought to the table with the offensive line having such difficultly opening running lanes. Darby didn't do himself any favors today. Ogbonnaya, I tought, looked intriguing, averaging a very respectable 5 yards per carry. We'll get into the evaluation part soon enough here at TST. 

The player of the game for the Rams was Chris Long. The sophomore DE fit right in on the left side, making it a long day for Cardinals RT Jeremy Bridges, who was filling in for Levi Brown. Long had a sack and a forced fumble on the same play, but the stat sheet does a poor job illustrating just how well Long played. Number 72 has come on strong in the second half of the season. Next year, he should be starting on the left side, and if the Rams do draft Ndamukong Suh, they could have an elite unit up front. Of course, even if they don't draft Suh, getting some talent to play with Long on the DL should do wonders for a unit that genuinely played well today but were just plain overmatched. 

Keith Null still looks like a rookie. This Rams offense is bad no matter who they put under center. I am, however, still impressed with his ability remain collected. Null suffered behind the slapped together offensive line and Alex Barron, getting sacked 4 times and never having much time in the pocket. Clearly he needs more time in the offense and some talent around him, particularly at WR. Is he the QB of the future? Whoa, one step at a time. He's definitely earned the right for some significant reps in camp, but any coronation ceremony should  wait. 

It's hard to be too tough on anyone that's been under center for the Rams this season considering they have so few options to throw to. Randy McMichael is one of the more established players on the team, yet he continued to show that he simply doesn't have much left to give. His hands have never been anything to be impressed with anyway. When you get to see Larry Fitzgerald (who had an off day), Boldin, and Breaston, it's clear just what exactly the Rams lack at WR. Our best players at that position - GIbson, Amendola and Avery - are nothing more than role players. They're not capable of carrying a team and making things happen for the offense. If the Rams had any other pick in the first round other than the top pick, we'd be talking about which wide receiver we should select. 

I feel bad for Danny Amendola. His costly fumble on a punt return was a rare black mark on what's been an otherwise impressive debut season. 

Alex Barron isn't a good enough left tackle to be playing with a bunch of replacements on the line. We had all better hope and pray that Jason Smith gets healthy for next year.

As for the game itself, what else is there to say? The Rams can at least hold their heads up and legitimately say they gave it their all. But when you're matching up Danny Gorrer to Anquan Boldin, you can't expect results, and that, to me, sums up the Rams 2009 season. A good offseason in which GM Billy Devaney can add talent to the right parts of the lineup will make the Rams competitive...it can't come soon enough.

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Who gets the game ball for the Rams?
Chris Long
200 votes
Brandon Gibson
24 votes
James Butler
3 votes
Chris Ogbonnaya
13 votes
other
2 votes

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im sorry but it has to be said

obviously theres not much talent on the team… duh. But i honestly think that the coaching is a real problem. shurmer is god awful, no creativity. run to steven, run to steven, which when you have a jackson is good, but oh wait now a 3 yard pass after 3 yard pass on a 3rd and 10. And coach spags isnt impressive either with his late game choices that may or may not have cost the team a couple of games and make the team not look like a complete joke. GO NULL.

by thatRamsfan on Dec 27, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

if you think this is a coaching problem, you don't know a whole lot about football

shurmur is one thing, but don’t criticize spags.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 27, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, cardsfan

Spags has done well as a head coach. Something about him gives me hope for the future of the Rams… even hundreds of miles away in CA.

by BruinHalo on Dec 28, 2009 2:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.bigblueview.com/2009/12/27/1221380/upset-osi-lashes-out

wooo reunite him with spags

Keith Null won't accept my friend requests.

by loyal2therams on Dec 27, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

osi would be sweet w/The Rams

"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense

by moy on Dec 27, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Howz about

Long on the left side, Suh and Pickett at DT and Osi on the right side?

I’m being a pollyanna, but I’m sure the first three are feasible.

by blindmouse on Dec 27, 2009 8:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That would bring fear to NFL teams... who do you double?

And in Suh’s case, he sometimes needs triple teaming.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Dec 27, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Getting the pieces is one thing

Keeping them healthy is another… dang this team’s injuries killed us and any progress we thought we may have made.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Dec 27, 2009 8:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Liked Ogbonnaya today

and loved him in college. Gotta think he’s a very respectful backup, more so than Darby. I wonder what has stopped the FO from promoting him off the practice squad

by riotmute on Dec 27, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ogbonnaya did some stuff today that really caught my eye

and I was wondering the same thing.

"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense

by moy on Dec 27, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Total incompetence.

I admit I am an idiot for buying Direct TV NFL package to watch the Rams lose every week. But what’s the players and coaches excuse for being such knuckleheads??? This “team” is bad on the top, the bottom and in the middle, i.e. rotten to the core. And if I hear one more TV announcer say something stupid like; “Spags has them really motivated” or “they play so hard in every game,” I’m gonna lose it. You don’t get beat by scores like 31-10 when you’re playing hard. You don’t get beaten to a pulp and swept by crummy teams like Seattle either. You don’t score 160-170 points in a season and give up over 400. It does NOT compute. We’ll need Suh and about 20 more NFL calibre players just to get to a 0.500 record. Conversely, we do not need Keith Null or Alex Barron or about 30 of the other players on our current roster. I have also just about lost what little faith I had remaining in Spags and Shurnur. The absolute worst thing that could happen to the franchise now is to let the 49ers give us next week’s meaningless game. The hated Niners are an order of magnitude better team than the Rams, and we all know it. But, it would be in their long-term best interest to lose to us next week so we don’t get Suh into our division. It would also strengthen their draft postion, and I understand they have TWO 1st round picks anyway.

by edpjr on Dec 27, 2009 8:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

To cure what ails you--

You need some Buttermilk, chased with beer, and a plate of half-cooked pork skins. Since you are so miserable anyway, have something real to be miserable about.

by Knoxfan on Dec 27, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am officially compiling "The Book of Ed"

to be published sometime in 2010. Curmudgeonly wisdom at its finest.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Dec 27, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

and here i thought you finally started to get it

people are talking about spags can get his team motivated because it’s true. when you have your third string quarterback handing the ball off to your second string running back behind a line of second and third teamers, of course the result is going to be bad. if that was any team in the nfl, the results are going to be of lower caliber.

you can’t pin on the coaches the lack of talent this team has, especially as it’s gotten further and further down the depth chart.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 27, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right on the Money

I’m amazed that no one other than edpjr seems to see this, but this team has been outcoached all season long. We suck. Plain and simple. NFL commentators are all the same. If one person says it, they all fall in line. That’s why when one guy says "this team is playing hard’ they all come out with "this team is playing hard’. I have no idea what that means other than, somebody sweats real hard while they suck. This team has been lousy all year. Hopefully a strong off-season will help us take another step in the right direction.

by Jim Everett on Dec 27, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup--

We need a strong draft. I think we have the QB position covered pretty good. Especially if we pick up one in the FA, not one that is just a PHANTOM behind center. We want to get one that will “play hard” and not turn into a PHANTOM when in the pocket. We’ll try our best.

by Knoxfan on Dec 27, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hilarious

But keep in mind that Everett is the Rams all-time passing leader, so he did some good things before he became Chris

by leonphelpths on Dec 28, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya, I was just ribbing him-

I know Jim and have talked to him on a number of occasions. He was a big tough guy and the Phantom thing was kind of a rib. I don’t believe that the Poster was actually him, as it was out of his character. BUT-if it wuz you Jim-Keep the Faith Dude, You were one of the good ones.

by Knoxfan on Dec 28, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And if we'd had won those two games

we’d have 3 wins right now and the chance to draft Suh would still be in jeopardy.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 28, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like to think if we had won a few games early on, the confidence gained might've led to a few more victories down the road.

We eventually won a game at Detroit. We could’ve beaten New Orleans. We should’ve beaten the Sea Haigs in the 2nd game. I thought there might’ve been a chance to win against the pitiful Bears. And, we gave the Texans a decent run. If we’d actually won 5-6 games, Suh wouldn’t be in the picture, but the Rams could claim vast improvement and say we’re looking forward to next year with relish. But, we end up 32 out of 32 teams and Suh is a heckuva consolation prize.

by edpjr on Dec 28, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we won 5 to 6 games

we’d be worse off right now.

5 to 6 games is what the Raiders shoot for every season. Personally, I’m fine with bottoming out since it means we get to draft Suh and continue to rebuild a roster that has been almost completely gutted (and rightfully so).

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 29, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's just your pride talking

If Suh is what every analyst thinks he is, one loss to the niners is completely worth it. Of course the best would be if Detroit won, allowing the Rams to win as well.

by BruinHalo on Dec 29, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True

     My pride and my hatred for the 49ers. If Detroit wins it’s moot. But if not, I’ll take Gerald McCoy.

by dbcouver on Dec 29, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ram Pride--

As much as I despise our record-I would rather be 0-16 as a RAM fan than 16-0 as a blueberry chocolate sucking latte’ 49’er fan!!

by Knoxfan on Dec 29, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with you ed, biggest squad of losers ever including the coaches

If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

by peteyweestro on Dec 27, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Cards Fan here

I was at the game and I will say that I was impressed on hpw you guys were able to run the ball. And Keith Null does have some potential, I’d like to see what he can do next year since Bulger will probably be gone and Boller isn’t much better.

But it must have been nice to see Warner play well, since I know everyone in St. Louis still loves him.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Dec 27, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, but as a Cards fan, it's in your best interest that we keep playing losers like Null, Darby and Ogbanyana.

Our stats today were awful. Only about 80 yards Rushing and 3 INTs. But you’re right that most Ram fans still love Kurt Warner. He will always be my hero. We’ve never been the same since he was trashed by Mike Martz.

by edpjr on Dec 27, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Luv Warner?

Warner bombed with the Rams, then went to the G-men and bombed, then went to the Cards and bombed until Fritz and Bolin came on line. Warner lives and dies with those two. Lose Fritz and bolin and the Cards are same as the Rams third string.

by Knoxfan on Dec 27, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here

He just spelled it wrong.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 28, 2009 8:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not Bolin?

Cheez-you’d think the guy would know how to spell his name correctly-

by Knoxfan on Dec 28, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Warner got concussed bad versus the Giants early in 2002. Then he broke his pinkie finger.

Martz used the opportunity to ditch Warner (mainly because of his outspoken wife Brenda) in favor of Marc Bulger. In his career as a Ram, which has now ended, Bulger managed to lead the team to the playoffs only twice where his record stands as 1-2. And, for the 1st part of his career, Bulger had Pace, Bruce, & Holt in their primes on offense. He also had a young guy named Kevin Curtis. Warner was shipped off to the NYG’s where he went 5-4 before Eli was crowned and took over permanently. Then Kurt went to Arizona, where it took them awhile to realize Leinart was a flop. Having fully recovered from all his injuries, Warner took Arizona to their 1st SB and was within a gnat’s butt of winning until a last minute defensive meltdown. Kurt Warner is a lock HoFamer while Mike Martz will only be remembered for disassembling a potential dynasty and Marc Bulger will be a footnote under the category “loser.”

by edpjr on Dec 28, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Having Pace was critical to Bulgers beginning

        During one stretch in 02 Warner went 0-5 before being pulled in favor of Bulger. Granted he threww some ints but he also played without Pace for those 5 games. Pace came back and was dominant for Bulgers 5 games where he went 5-0, thus kicking off his career.

by dbcouver on Dec 28, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Warner was injured in the Giants game in 2002 - not benched.

Incompetent Jamie Martin played QB in games 4 & 5, losses to the then dreadful Cowboys and the eventual champ 49ers. When Martin went down to injury, Bulger came in and won 5 straight beginning with a victory over unbeaten Oakland. When Warner recovered he got the starting slot back. And things were going fine until he fumbled after being hit with less than a minute left versus the Redskins causing us to lose the chance to kick a game winning FG. All momentum died after that game. We ended up 7-9.

by edpjr on Dec 28, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All the same

        Those 5 victories wouldn’t have happened if Pace wasn’t back. At least I didn’t think so back then. Bulger may not have been such a comfortable fall back after Warners fumble. It just seemed that we should have been more patient with Warners misgivings back then, knowing what we knew then about Paces importance, aand the fact he wasn’t there to protect Warner.

by dbcouver on Dec 28, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2002 sucked

all that talent gone to waste.

follow me on twitter @nickg105

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 28, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

that is freakin deep
love those rams!!!

"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense

by moy on Dec 27, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Dec 28, 2009 1:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL...an easy win...good one.

andyrose; Ed’s a fan, he’s just tired of losing and says what’s on his mind, you gotta respect that. Tho I don’t always agree w/him he does bring up some good points. Carry on edpjr…

by RamsFan1979 on Dec 28, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Green highlights?

He didn’t use “green highlights”. His comment was rec’d enough times to get the green highlight. It’s an SBN thing. The author had nothing to do with it.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

More than anything....

The Rams basically remind me of an XFL team. They play pretty hard, but they just don’t have all the much talent or experience starting.

by DiscoJer on Dec 28, 2009 2:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

If only...

Then they wouldn’t have all those penalty yards, and Incognito would be MVP.

by BruinHalo on Dec 28, 2009 3:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Once again

I’m withholding judgement on this weeks game since I was busy driving through the Illinois “blizzard” for roughly 5 hours yesterday. But I will say that Jackson sitting pretty much cost me in my fantasy football championship game.

As it stands, I need the shitty Bears defense to hold Purple Jesus to under 10 FFL points in order to capture the trophy for the second consecutive year against a team that has delivered 2 of my 3 losses on the season (and is named Steeler Domination for puke’s sake).

I’m not pleased….

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 28, 2009 8:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

With regard to the poll

I didn’t realize they gave out a game ball to a player on the losing team.

by WestCoastBuc on Dec 28, 2009 9:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Reading these

posts are bitter sweet. Yeah we have some players w/low talent, BUT the reason they’re playing is our massive injury list. How many players have we picked up because of need due to injury? I think the coaches do what they can to prepare the team and get them ready… at some point the players play and the game proceeds. Our ‘wire players’ are not up to caliber, that is a given. Thanks for being the master of the obvious, how astute.

Null isn’t playing that bad IMO, but I had lower/realistic expectations for him. He could be a quality back up for us. Obgonnaya played better than any backup RB we have on the roster. Maybe not the 2nd stringer most of us hope for, but he’ll improve. We still need a better WR… our ‘committee’ is good, but we need another player to make us better. Our defense is only a few players short of vastly improving IMO.

 

by RamsFan1979 on Dec 28, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

One thing you have to look at

Is the players and how they have progressed through the season. Besides all the obvious things (this is somewhat obvious in itself, but anyway) player progression is the most glaring benefit of having a good coach. What did we see with Linehan? a vanilla offense that didn’t benefit anyone. He constantly searched for “big names” in the hope that they would help right the ship without having to coach them up a bit. One thing I liked about Martz is that he always seemed to find good talent at the WR position and extract that talent into yards and scores. Kevin Curtis. Mike Furrey. Shaun McDonald. They all have had good seasons (some of them with him). He couldn’t pick a defensive player to save his life, but that’s besides the point (he didn’t have the skills to do that- he was an offensive guy, always).

Now look at coach Spags’. Obviously, this wasn’t his team, and won’t be his team (in terms of personnel) for a while. No amount of undrafted street free agents will change that fact. Obviously, you can’t coach undrafted free agents and 7th rounders into star players- sure it’ll happen on that lucky occasion, but it just can’t happen. This is the NFL, and the talent disparity is just too damn high.

But look at players like Bradley Fletcher, Craig Dahl, James Butler, Animal Jr. and even Chris Long (Offensively, Danny Amendola and RIchie Incognito, for awhile at least). These are players that were coached by Spags’ and have generally done well when the play. In Fletcher’s case, you see the season get cut short- but these players were making a difference. They HAVE been progressing.

When this offseason rolls around, they will have released a lot of their dead money and hopefully will be able to pick up players that fit the system and can work with Spag’s.

One year is never enough to turn a team around, especially if it’s the Rams. You can’t undo years of shit in a few months.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Dec 28, 2009 12:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

this year was a rebuilding year

why anyone expected 5-6 wins from the Rams confuses me. Despite a 1 win season, this is a better team than the past two seasons. Linehan was in a win-now mode. Despite everyone saying that “this is a rebuilding year for the Rams” after one losing season after another, the Rams continued to be the oldest team in the league. How many starters were on their last legs? Spags came in and absolutely cleaned house. If the Rams were in a win-now mode, you can be sure Spags would not have gotten rid of WW and Chris Draft. Let the young players develop. If the Rams had, say, kept Drew Bennet and Tory Holt, we wouldn’t have a Danny Amendola or a Brandon Gibson (or maybe even a Laurent Robinson). The losing years are almost over Rams fans. edpjr, i feel your pain, but this next season might be the last sub .500 season we have for a while.

by jb22 on Dec 28, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t have have hated it if they kept Holt around this year. Totally understood the move (that’s a lot of money for someone who just isn’t that good anymore). But with the injuries and the lack of experience (huge lack of experience)…It wouldn’t have been horrible to keep a future HOF on the team for some good old fashioned learnin’.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Dec 28, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Best quote of the year...

“You can’t undo years of shit in a few months.”

by edpjr on Dec 28, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I feel honored.

Thank you.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Dec 28, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't need the AA

TST is my support group. Without this site’s optimism and forward-looking posts, it’d be tough to continue to follow this team with as much enthusiasm as I do.

by BruinHalo on Dec 29, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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