The Curse of the Rams
My apologies everyone, as Christmas (or your selected holiday) draws near, I find myself *gasp* slightly less focused on the Rams and more focused on getting everything ready. I must say however, I was wondering about what to write about today.
Originally, I was going to look at how our team has been so unlucky with injuries, and what could be the cause of that. They've changed coaching staff (including the strength coach position, who, I might add, is filled with a qualified and experienced coach- not to say it isn't his fault but merely to point out that he has done the job with success before). They still play on the artificial field at the EJD, but from what I have found on the web (again, not exactly the most accurate source of information, but for the sake of argument, let's assume it is right) is that it is the same type of 'turf' that is used by many other teams, including the Seattle Seahawks (I've been to Qwest Field before, from what I have heard, the 'turf' is quite high-tech). I've also found studies that show injuries are no more likely then those on real grass and it appears it's merely a choice amongst those who play football to which they prefer.
So quite frankly, I was stuck thinking, well, what the hell is the problem?
What I came up with is that this team is cursed. Not in a Chicago Cubs way (it's not like we couldn't see this downward spiral coming) but it seems that when things can go wrong, they will. Most obviously, it has been the injuries. For no explicable reason, this team has had so many injuries it makes my head spin. It's one thing when you have players like Adam Carriker or Marc Bulger, (two players who've dealt with injuries in the past) get injured. But then you see freak occurances- the Bradley Fletcher (a nuclear bomb to the knee), the Jason Smith (a concussion from hell, apparently) or a Gary Gibson (dirty plays go on all the time, but of course it happens to be a Ram that gets knocked out for the season). There are almost as many starters on the team playing right now as there are on the IR.
Secondly, look at the drafts. Now, obviously, the previous front office wasn't keen on seeing talent. But truth be told, any player that they picked wasn't a monumental reach. Sure, their were some headscratchers, but it can be fair to say that if they picked someone in the first round (Barron, Tye Hill, etc.) they had been deemed a first round talent by quite a few people high up in the food chain. Not to say they were on the tops of the boards, but nobody let out a giant, "WTF?" when their names were called. When Mike Martz coached, all six of the Rams receivers had notable talent (even Mike Furrey had a great year in Detroit, and he led the team in INT's one year as well). Even Devaney's first draft is still a wait and see (Chris Long, Donnie Avery, John Greco). Sure it is still too early to tell, but passing on players like DeSean Jackson grow more and more questionable as the days go on. I'm not saying they are all busts, but surely you can agree they aren't all panning out as we have hoped (blame whoever you would like on this one).
It just seems like everything that can go wrong for this team is going wrong. This team could have easily been in the 4-6 win range with a little luck. Games like New Orleans, Washington, Jacksonville (even last week against Houston, and shoot, even the Minnesota game) were all winnable to say the least.
So the question I find asking myself is this: Is this team a few playmakers away from being respectable again, or are we looking at a sad, injury prone bunch that has a massive unlucky monkey on it's back? Being from Seattle, I've witnessed my fair share of unlucky-ness. I watched the Seahawks lose the superbowl to some shoddy calls, I've watched the Mariners (bats, playmaking, you name it) fall silent in the playoffs after torching through the league with 116 wins.
Leaving it with baseball, do the Rams have a unfortunate habit of leaving all their men on base (meaning they have the worst luck you've ever seen), or are they the football equivalent of the Pittsburgh Pirates (ala, they suck- just chalk up their misfortunes to that).
Feel free to find a catchy name for our curse.
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If the Rams were alone-
By no means are the Rams worst off than many other teams. In fact, many of them exceed the number on IR. Sorry Ram—all teams are equally cursed. Soooooooooooo how about an item about how we get burned so easy deep? (heh-heh) I couldn’t help myself——
Many of them
By many you mean the Bills, Saints and Bucs?
Their are a few teams up their with us, true, but when you look it ours compared to theirs, how many more starters do you see?
When it comes to sports, I’m one of those superstitious people. I look at years of shit and think Curse.
I believe in 2010
I think you're right on that point-
It seems like the Rams IR list has a bigger impact on us than it does to other teams. The starters we lose year after year digs a ditch that we are forced to crawl along instead of being able to step out of. I’m lucky that I’m not a superstitious person, knock on wood.
I mean, like I said in the post
Injuries are going to happen. But when you have Jason Smith out for what, 4 weeks now? 5? and probably not going to see action again this year because of a concussion (many players can come back from this in a short period- that’s all I’m saying)?
When you see Bradley Fletcher quite possibly have a career-ending (or altering) injury? What type of twisted luck is that?
If you want to go back a few years, look at Orlando Pace.
Hell, Torry Holt and Marshall Faulk had knee problems.
I believe in 2010
Injuries?
Here’s a snippet from an old article. Think we got problems thesedays? try circa 1979—
Then, within 5 regular season games they lose 13 starters.
Their number one starting RB (Peacock) for the season.
Their number one wide reciever (jessie) for the season.
They have to start 4 different QB’s.
And win the western division for a NFL record 7 straight times.
Ray Malavasi and Bud Carson had great defensive minds, but, you get these two together and they became a monster defensive coach.
For the Seahawks they created a defensive scheme called “delay-bim”.
It was so effective that it held a explosive seahawk offense to -7 total yards for the entire game.
-7 YARDS FOR AN ENTIRE GAME. (that record might last for awhile.
Curses are for teams did suck, do suck, and always will suck.
That’s right I’m talking about the last 101 years of the ultimate Cubsuck. In fact I looked in the dictionary and looked up the word suck and it said see Cubs. The Rams have had bad management but are nearing a turnaround. Its not a curse to have a few losing seasons in a row. We’ve won a championship in the past decade. That’s better than 26 other teams can say.
Can't think of a good sig
A few?
The Rams won a championship in 1999 after a decade of suck. For all intents and purposes, the St. Louis Rams have only had a few good seasons since their inception. The Los Angeles Rams are different story…
But this is just me.
I believe in 2010
so it's not a curse?
How bout a slump? “The St. Louis Slump”?
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
The Rams-
More than a Slump, less than a Curse-Hmmmmmmmm we gotta invent a new name for our predictament.
call me crazy if you will
but despite this pathetic 1 win season, i’m still pretty optimistic about the Ram’s future. Spags is one hell of a rookie head coach. He will learn as he goes, and more importantly so will our coordinators. It’s not about the plays you design, its about when you call them. The late Jim Johnson of the Eagles was amazing at calling the right defensive play at the right time. Our coordinators will learn to get a better feel of the game as they go. All those screen passes that we attempt always get snuffed out by the D, because Shurmur hasn’t developed a good sense of when a screen play is adequate. He was a QB coach. He knows his X’s and O’s, but football isn’t a competition of who has a more impressive playbook.
I'm hoping one of our coordinators
Won’t get a chance to learn from his mistakes. His mistakes were bad enough that he should’ve been gone after week 6 if not sooner. I’m talking about Shurmur by the way.
Can't think of a good sig
It's the turf, not a curse
Yes the Rams use the same kind of turf (FieldTurf or NexTurf) as in many other stadiums, but unlike other stadiums, the Jones Dome rips up the turf after every season so they can use the space for conventions and whatnot. And contrary to what you might expect, new turf is actually more unstable and dangerous than turf that has fully cured.
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I would have to reserve comment-- until--
It’s shown that our injuries happened in our Dome—That head to body or head to head contact did not cause the concussions but was caused by the Turf instead—Or that cracked bones was from the Turf instead of being hit or rolled over by opposing players. I think blaming the Turf instead of the Clump is a long shot at this point.
turf clump times
that’s got a ring to it
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
The "turf monster" has long been a suspect ... here's some evidence
Particularly in the number of knee injuries that happen without contact, or injuries that happen because the turf doesn’t “give” the way grass and dirt does when players are being twisted down off their feet. Bradley Fletcher, Quincy Butler, CJ Ah You (in practice), Donnie Avery (in practice), Gary Gibson, Keenan Burton and Bulger are all victims. (Bulger’s leg isn’t broken from an impact hit, he has a stress fracture where the tibia meets the ulna.)
As to the rate of Rams falling versus the opposition, the opponents only play one game per year on the surface, whereas we spend a whole season on it. Similar surfaces in baseball shorten the careers of certain home field players, while not impacting visiting players at all.
Nearly every player on the Rams IR sustained their season-ending injury at the Dome: the exceptions are OJ Atogwe (injured at Soldier Field, which has been rated by NFL players as the “”http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Desmond-Clark-rips-home-field-turf.html" >worst natural grass surface in the league"), while Brooks Foster and Eric Bassey both went down to knee injuries during the light-hitting scrimmage at Lindenwood (which was played on brand new Field Turf, same as the Dome).
I mean, it’s not scientific proof, but if you and the NIH want to give me a couple million bucks to research it, I’m certain we could prove it out pretty damn well.
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dont really want to belive
that the Rams are cursed, if not they have more than their share of bad luck mising out on Desean Jackson really hurt us, I,m not saying that Avery isn,t good but he,s not action jackson. any team picking behind us will be licking their chops.
RAY
All the teams are picking behind us--
And if your “action Jackson” had of went to the Raiders, he would be at 2 catches for 10 yards. Russel only throws to his favored receivers, open or not. A couple of his throws went to his WR’s that were sitting on the bench.
Does Karma Count?
The rams head coach may be the one that brought about such “bad luck”. As a Giants fan, I must say, in NO WAY should any major member of a football organization (especially players and COACHING STAFF) bail out or even MENTION bailing out on a team IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAYOFFS!!! Most people in the public and in the media blamed Plaxico Burress for ruining our season last year. Yeah that whole debacle played a part…but just a small part. Our defense started to cave in once Spagnuolo announced that he was leaving to pursue a head coaching job with a team that turned out to be the Rams. I don’t think he changed his game planning or defensive schemes at all during his final days with the Giants. But to tell a team that you’re quitting on them at a time when they need you most is just WRONG on so many levels. Our defense played the last game of last season like a child of divorced parents. Yeah they were present, but , no they didn’t play well or seem like their usual selves.
So…. the final result is? The Giants are stuck with a new rookie defensive coordinator that’s killing the team along with our chances of making it to the playoffs by trying to be as aggressive and exciting as Spagnuolo….and Spags is stuck putting a team together that may take YEARS to show any POSITIVE results. When he could’ve stayed a DC for the Giants and could’ve been workin towards a 2nd or 3rd SuperBowl ring.
So…if you guys wanna blame anybody…blame Spags
How Bout--
We blame Linham/Zigg/etc.. and SUPPORT Spags. Go home wimp-you don’t know hardship. Cheez-what a whinner!
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i’m sorry your team wasn’t good enough to win the super bowl last year, but thanks for informing us (again) that spags is in fact a good coach.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 23, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
now that's funny
thanks i needed a good laugh
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
Who knows
i just cant wrap my head around the idea. I have a gut feeling we’re on track now and my gut rarely fails me.
If you wuz to---
Try my game special, Buttermilk-Beer-and Pork skins-your gut would fail you on the hour, every hour for about 2 days.
damn
i can understand why you do it because it is painful to watch sundays. What kind of beer? St louis has one of my favorite brewers. I drink bud light game day, trying to watch the calories but Ying ling (pottsville,PA oldest brewery in the us) Land Shark, Sam Adams seasonal beer (summer ale is thier best comparable to Budweiser American Ale) and Blue Moon has been growing on me. A pack of Marlboro’s and a Arbys Bacon Chedder roast burger or some steamed crabs (come to Baltimore we got the best crabs on the earth) and i can deal with any of the rams problems.
by keeperskillz24 on Dec 23, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
In my military days there was always a lot of talk about crabs around that area-it was said that there was as much around there as Hong Kong so I guess you’re right. Also, I spent $650 dollars on a big screen, and I’ve sucked up about $1000 worth of whatever kind of beer that the gang brings for the games, plus they gotta pay for the dish NFL season. You say that you actually steam the crabs? I bet if I started cooking the pork rinds, more of the guys would eat em’.
O man
Knox Chesapeake bay blue crabs steamed with old bay seasoning (and corn in the pot) you have no idea. I crab with my buddy maybe 3x a week during the summer who has a commercial license. If you hear any of the ravens talk they will tell you. Im sure Kyle Boller knows. (my cousins ex girlfriend met him said he’s a dick shes a bitch so who knows) Baltimore Murderland aint much besides the crabs and actually I live on north point road where the British landed and actually gave them a taste of democracy.fun fact the British advance was stalled when American sharpshooters Daniel Wells and Henry McComas killed their popular commanding general. It’s so cool liveing where are nation founded. For god sakes i drive on the Francis Scott key bridge evrey day to go to work he’s the guy who wrote are Country’s Anthem (About Fort Mchenrey Holding off the British) god I love this country.
by keeperskillz24 on Dec 24, 2009 2:58 AM CST up reply actions
TO EVERY RAMS PLAYER
I LOOK UP TO THE RAMS EVERY SINCE I WAS LITTLE EVEN THOUGH YALL LOST STEVEN JACKSON IS TRYING TO DO HIS BEST AND HE IS DOING A HELL OF A GOOD JOB BUT TO GET MORE TOUCHDOWN YOUR OFFENSIE LINE HAVE TO BLOCK I MEAN STAY ON HIM AND MARK BULGER YOU DOING GOOD BUT IF YOU DONT SEE THEM DONT THROW THE BALL. AND IF THE LINE NOT BLOCKING HOLDING THE BALL TIGHT. EVEN WR MATCH SURE YOUR STAY IN YOUR LANE AND FIGHT FOR THE BALL IN THE AIR I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BLOW OUT LIKE YOU DID COWBOYS LAST YEARS. DIONTE CHARLESTON
OK
I SEE YOUR POINT. BUT MARC BULGER IS ON THE IR AND PROBABLY DONE AS A RAM. AND OFFENSIVE LINE HAS TAKEN SOME INJURIES AS WELL. BUT NEXT YEAR WE WILL TAKE NOTES ON THIS. STEVEN IS NOT GETTING TOUCH DOWNS BECAUSE WE HAVE NO PASSING GAME AND THE DEFENSE KNOWS IT THATS WHY THEY PUT 8 TO 9 PLAYERS IN THE BOX.
fan from 1969
this article is talking about recent history, I have been a ram fan since the days of roman gabriel. before I start, I dont’ wish to make st louis fans mad, because they have been great fans, and have been a great host to the los angeles rams team that moved there.and they gave us ram fans a super bowl win! hurrah for st. louis! saying that, in my dreams I wish they move back to LA, and get back their old uni’s. I loved seeing them in those last week against houston. they played them tough for sure, even with an unkown qb. first off they need a new qb. bulger is toast, but i’d take the nebraska guy for sure next year in the draft. anyway, regarding “The curse” yes, if I had a nickel for everytime something weird and bizarre happened to this team over the years since 1969, I’d be rich. I could give many examples of strange and bizzare things that happened against the rams in playoff games in the 70’s, but it would take up way way way too much space and I"d be typing for the next 4 hours. I was a heartbroken kid back then. ok one example. years after years, the rams always had to play in minnisota in the playoffs, in the snow, and even with that huge disadvantage, they still would play them tough. one thing I remember is in a championship game, the rams were running and ramming it down the vikings throats, drove all the way in a 95 yard drive, but got stopped just one yard short of the goal line. so they line up for a chip shot extra point field goal, and the vikings block the kick, and run it back 99 yards for the td! then later in that game, with the rams driving for the winning score, merlin olsen gets called for a holding penalty, that the announcers in the booth could not believe, and so they lose. this is only one tiny example. anyway my point was year after year they had to play in the cold climates in the playoffs. then the one year that they actually get minnisota at home in LA, it rains buckets and the field at the collosium turns to mud! and they were a running team that depended on the run, and had dominated all season long, but in the mud the running back could not get footing and they lost at home to minnisota. just unbelievable. I could go on and on but yes, this team has a curse. I don’t know why, but they do.
the super bowl win, was almost another heartbreaking loss but tennesee was stopped one yard short. this was the only break the rams have ever gotten.
sorry st louis, this team should be in LA. they were there 50 years. they were the only team there for that long. you guys have been great and I would not be miserable if the team stays there, but for me it will always be the LA rams. in an ideal world, the rams would move back to LA, and you guys who were jipped big time with the cardinals, would get that team back. if arizona wants a team, get them an expansion team, and have the cards back in st loius, and the rams back in LA. ahh to dream…
thad be too confusing
St Louis cardinals football team and st Louis cardinals baseball team? Well least you could get memorabilia and if one team is doing bad you can always say its for the other.
by keeperskillz24 on Dec 24, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
The Curse of Mike Martz
I know its a little early to call for a curse in Martz’s name and I know the Ram’s woes preceed the Martz’ Era, But the Rams have had 4 head coaches and are 18–57 under Joe Vitt, Scott Linehan, Jim Haslett and Steve Spagenuolo since Martz left. The last three years they are 6-42. Maybe it is the mother of all curses, fast acting and ten times as destructive. At least the other teams mentioned have had hope throughtout their seasons. The Rams would be thankful to keep their losses to single digits next year. much less dare to dream of a 8-8.

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