Rams finished with Richie Incognito
by VanRam on Dec 15, 2009 2:58 PM CST
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You want credibility, you got it. The St. Louis Rams released former starting RG RIchie Incognito this afternoon. Incognito committed two pretty blatant personal foul penalties that put the Rams offense in a bad spot against the Titans. It wasn't even the first game this year that Incognito had more than one personal foul called on him; in the opener against Seattle he had two flags for personal fouls that week too.
After that first game, Cogs got a talking to and played consistently well and level-headed...until this week. His "it's not my fault" routine with Spagnuolo, documented by the Fox camera crews yesterday, probably proved to be the final nail in his coffin.
Some team will snap him up. He has the talent, and some coach will think for sure that he has what it takes to keep him on the straight and narrow...or tolerate his antics. The Rams have depth at the guard position, though the news that Jacob Bell will most likely land on IR, ending his season, will stretch that depth. With Adam Goldberg filling in for the concussed Jason Smith at RT, Mark Setterstrom and John Greco will most likely be the Rams starting guards this week.
The call for Incognito's release from fans and the local media was impossible to miss in the wake of his most recent outing. Have to give him props on handling it with class though. Here's the meathead himself on Spags and the team:
I passed along to Spags and Billy. I told them they’re doing a wonderful job. I really do think Spags is doing a great job. It’s obvious what the team needs here _ and it’s talent. It’s not a lack of coaching. And it’s not a lack of desire. It’s just a lack of talent right now. And they’ll get that sorted out. They’re the right men for the job.
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i guess you can forget the last comment i made
saying coach should play Cogs. LOL
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i bet coach mullet picks him up
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
Major mixed feelings about this...
You just know he’ll land on a great team and flourish. But I assume the Rams need to make this move.
I loved the guys passion.
The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.
i agree
he’ll probably go to the Titans and turn into a shining star. I hope these Rams pick up thier pace.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
Luv ya COGS!!! But you were just killing the other guys on the team--
So don’t get head-butted in the ass on your way out the door!
I Think He Ends Up In Detroit
reunites with Linny and Schwartz will have him on a short leash……..i’m sure Cogs is relieved that he doesnt have to be part of this mess (not like detroit will be easier), but i’m sure Cogs is confident he’ll get picked up by someone…………
I Want The Rams Back In LA....The More They Lose The More Of A Chance That It Will Happen....Sorry St Louis You Cant Keep A Team(Twice)...Rams Come Home....We'll Be Here For You When You Do
i want to take the risk on him..
i rtaher have a desnt player that is a ass then a saint that cant block a 12 year old
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
Was a great move!
As a coach Spags made the best move he could. Remember Defiance spreads like a disease. Without cutting this short, it would make his communication and validity difficult to get to the guys. There is no doubt the guy has talent and can play the position, but you just can’t have that free range of stupidness on the field. Spags is trying to preach effort and discipline, and Cogs was only half there. Good call on the cut and I am impressed with the response by Cogs…well said guy.
I guess my wanting OG Duke Robinson the 5th round of this last draft would have had some reasoning behind it. Greco and Stetts will do just fine.
I was with you on Robinson
This year the OLs are fewer and further between, but FA is the way to go, i"m thinking.
just sad
this is the right move, but what a waste of real football talent right there. when he wasn’t being stupid he was easily one of the better guards in the league.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 3:58 PM CST reply actions
I'm not a fan of this move
but I have to give credit to Spags and trust the decision. It definitely sends shock waves through the locker room. If somehow you didn’t think the players knew who was in charge, well the do now.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
+1 from me too
I think this probably has a lot more to do with how he handled benching and not taking responsibility for the behavior, than just the behavior itself. That’d be my guess.
by CoachConnors on Dec 15, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
They knew who was in charge of the Titanic too....
I never cut Incognito a bit of slack. He was named “dirtiest” player in the NFL. And after a couple years of drawing repeated personal fouls, the NFL referees (some of whom need seeing-eye dogs) became accustomed to scrutinizing him highly every game and felt obligated to flag him if he so much as breathed on somebody. But, the sad thing is that Incognito could play better than 3/4 of our players. As far as Spags goes, I wonder if the season would’ve gone any different if he’d fired Incognito after the Seattle fiasco in the 1st game? Maybe shockwaves would’ve reverberated through the 40+ deadwood players we’ve still got in time to salvage a few wins this season? I sure hope this move doesn’t strengthen Alex Barron’s position or I’m liable to become a Cards fan……
I agree with you 100% about Incognito.
And I still feel like he didn’t do anything wrong (well, worth an unsportsmanlike penalty) on the 2nd play he got flagged for on Sunday. I think he’s a target.
Nevertheless, I don’t think this changes the team’s position on Barron. Well, I sure as hell hope it doesn’t. But, I think we should really bump OL up the list of priorities for this upcoming offseason in the draft or FA.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
agree with you on the o-line
but i think we have decent enough depth at G to have some flexibility in how/what we look for
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Our sub-par O-line is getting thin
Barron should be gone next season and Cogs is gone now. That’s two starters in an already sub-par O-line. We need some help there. Right now we have Smith and Brown. Who knows what is going to happen with Bell, so we could have some big holes in the O-line next year. Although I would hope Greco could contribute next year at at least an average level.
Can't think of a good sig
i think Goldberg is credible
as a starting guard. I think Setterstrom has the ability, but health questions.
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Ingognito
It’s about time that the Rams let him go. This hot-headed jerk will never learn how to control himself and play football. That is why it took 3 colleges for him to graduate! He must have majored in STUPIDITY!!!!! Hopefully Nebraska will forget that he once represented their team. We know that the Rams fans have had enough!!
incognito kinda looks
like Correy Harrison off that show Pawn Stars on the history channel. At least i see the resemblence.
you beat me to it.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Wherever he ends up
trouble will follow. He’s a bad seed. Although quite talented, he really did need to go.
I think his comments about Spags
proves he’s not a “bad seed”.
He has trouble controlling his temper in the heat of a game. Hardly “bad seed” material. Btw, if you want to see some bad seeds, come to work with me in the Chicago Public Schools. I’ll show you a few that make Richie Incognito look like a choir boy.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Dammit...such a sad story his is...
…one of the better young guards in the league. So unfortunate he couldn’t quite get his act together.
At the same time however, I would have preferred cutting Barron over him. At least Cogs gives a (bleep). And Barron still has more penalties than Cogs. So with Barron you get the same bonehead plays, a less talented lineman, and a lackadaisical attitude. I think he’s next on the chopping block.
This hurts our O-Line IMO. We need a RT pretty bad now. Smith will head to the LT spot, Bell has been solid at LG, Jason Brown is a lock at C, but that right side is interesting now. We’re going to need to keep Goldberg at RG since it’s his best spot and he’s struggled at Tackle. Any chance Greco can move to RT somehow? He’s listed at RG right now. He’s got a good 6’4", 329 frame.
If he could do that somehow it’d be a big help.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
If the Rams had a better offense
they’d have more leeway, in that at least they would have a chnce to get back some his stupid penalties.
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Agreed.
We need wideouts and a decent TE, fast.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
Actually, we only need one of each.
As long as we push down everyone of the depth chart by adding a #1 WR, our WR corps is pretty solid all of sudden, assuming Robinson comes back strong from his injury.
McMichael isn’t much of a threat on offense, with his horrible hands and whatnot. If anything, we should promote Fells.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
I think its safe to say that WR is the least of our worries all of a sudden
with our run D collapsing the past few weeks, losing Incognito (and eventually Barron), losing our CB to a possibly career-threatening injury, the possibility of losing our ball-hawk FS
with incognito gone..
i wonder who takes over title of “biggest douchebag on the team”? i’m thinking barron.
by mooseknuckles41 on Dec 16, 2009 2:41 AM CST reply actions
Don't worry
… with the way we’re playing, douchebags are easy to find every week.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
St. Louis Fans stink, stick to baseball
First, where have all you “I love Gogs fans” been? For like the last year or so, this board and other boards have been dominated by a bunch of wusses. I have been going crazy here!
Second, Cogs will go to another team and succeed.
Third, we now have another talent hole we need to fill. This will push us back another year or two at best while we develop another with maybe half his talent (but a really nice guy that brings flowers to the other team and the refs.)
Fourth, this is why St. Louis DOESN"T deserve an NFL team.
ARRHHHHH! You guys are killing me!
I disagree
Once upon a time, I owned a muscle car. It was neck snapping fast at all shift points. It was super-and my 442 Hemi could match any Camero anywhere. BUT-it was weird that it would stutter or slip, right when at a critical time, it would hesitate, hit, then rip my special ratio on the rear end. I loved the car, but if it let our 1/4 strip team down, It had to go. It tore me up, but the Stock catagory team came first. I can bet somebody turned it into a blown monster of the midway. It just never happened for me. The Alameda Road-Runners (from NAS Alameda) re balanced our equipment and mechanics and never blamed our supporters for not giving us enough money. And we never gave up, even in our lowest times. It’s the memories Dude—The memories!! GO RAMS!!!
I know-
But who ever heard of a RoadRunner wearing a 426? No one would know what I was making reference to. Everyone knows it as a 442.
They usually just say HEMI in big script on the front fender.
I associate 442 with the Olds Cutlass of the same name. 4-bbl carb, 4-speed trans and dual exhaust – thus 442.
Gosh---gulp!
I’m fainting from sticker shock! When I remember what we sold it far—-I only got this to say—-@!##%qzzzzzz*&^)(][!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<>!##%qzzzzzz*&^)(][!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<>!##%qzzzzzz*&^)(][!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<>!##%qzzzzzz*&^)(][!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<>@@@!##%qzzzzzz*&^@!##%qzandkickmyasstillmybreathsmelllikeshit!
Try making sense.
And try reading THIS board.
You obviously don’t and didn’t read the comments in this post before you decided to sound off. Honestly, I’m not 100% if you’re calling out the Incognito (or as you put it, “Gogs”…..) fans or detractors. (which side do the “wusses” fall on?).
But whichever you’re looking for, you’ll find both right here in this comments section. Open your eyes before sounding off. It’ll help keep you from sounding foolish.
Or maybe you’re just an LA fan looking for any opening to take a shot at St. Louis?
Ummm….yeah, that’s probably it. Because as we all know, you aren’t required to make sense if your ultimate goal is for the Rams to return to LA. Believe me, I’m going to laugh my ass off when the Los Angeles Jaguars kick the ball off for the first time.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
hey tackle
don’t throw all of us CA Rams Fans under that bus. i was a young adult when the Rams moved to St. Louis and i for one thought it was the best thing that could have happened to them. i felt that LA showed absolutley no loyalty to them and deserved what they got. and the Rams got what they deserved also, a long awaited SB win. i hate note being able to see them on their home TURF but i do get one game a yr in sf.
Peace Brother
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
Didn't mean to throw you all under the bus.
I just get slightly annoyed, no harm meant.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
"push us back another year"
wtf?
1st, Incognito being on the team pushed us back. way back. like, multiple drive-killing penalties back.
2nd, you’re not one of “us”.
3rd, I hope you and your boyfriend Richie are happy together.
by mooseknuckles41 on Dec 16, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
another idiot
i swear any LA fans on here that are just looking to start a fight should just not post. (and no i’m not talking about the ones that engage in consistent, decent discussion on here).
to la fans: you know NOTHING about st. louis. you know NOTHING about our fan base. and you know NOTHING about the current rams. and you know NOTHING about the city. stop talking out of your ass.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
One, I am a Rams Fan first.
Two, I know that St. Louis’s number one team is the Cards. Look at your posting logo.
Three, if you can’t accept noted facts i.e. it will take the Rams at least a year or two develop Cogs replacement is only fooling themselves. Also, it was John Shaw that forced the Rams out of LA. DO NOT BLAME LA fans. He inserted a clause into the contract with ORange County, the Anaheim Duck and the Pond (arena) that said if attendence dropped below X, the Rams could leave and then went about NOT marketing the team. He was allowed to do this because County HAD to ask him legally per their contract with each other.
SO DO NOT RAISE YOUR VOICE ME. I HAVE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT THE RAMS THEN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.
i'm from st. louis. i live in LA.
orange county is not LA (somebody please tell the Angels). nobody in LA younger than 35 even remembers the Rams. LA will never support it’s own NFL team again because the entire town is made up of transplants (i’ve said all this before). have you ever been to City of Industry? good luck with that.
I CAN WRITE IN ALL CAPS, too. Rams are in St. Louis to stay. Win we get a winner back on the field, everyone will forget that these ridiculous arguments even took place.
by mooseknuckles41 on Dec 16, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
Boy-would I love to get into this fray-
But I can’t type fast enough for a long rant that I was part of when the Rams was making those moves. I’ll just save it for another day. P.S.-I was at a lot of those meetings at the Orange County Hotel with Ray M. & staff. I didn’t forget any of it.
did you say something?
all i heard was farting. were there words coming out of there too?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
Probably so-Farting is about all I got left that makes sense and feels good---
Every time I think of all the verbal fights that went on in them days about re-nameing the LA Rams to the Anaheim Rams and the Fan riots it caused, wow! It was all eye-ball to eye-ball in the clubhouse. No computers to hide behind. HOW FUN IT WAS!!!!
You committed a cardinal (no pun intended) sin
You can’t come in this blog and vent in disagreement with the status quo, without expecting to be accused of being foolish or of not reading or doing your due diligence. they don’t like venting, even though we’re 1-12, and they will pat each other on the back while vilifying anyone who expresses views they don’t agree with. At the same time you will be accused of starting fights, knowing nothing ang pulling crap out of your ass, all while they will claim the use of level-headed logic and reasoning, which of course you must lack because you disagree. Just watch what happens now.
"venting" is not a good form of blogging
i know you said to ignore you, which i’m planning on doing, but think about this:
instead of looking at what is in front of you, look at the big picture. that’s what pisses me off more than anything in the world on this blog, is people like you and their knee jerk reactions based on this or that. this especially is a year where the big picture needs to be looked at instead of what goes on on the field. the idiots that got the rams into this position in the first place are gone, so it’s pointless to sit here and bitch about what went on in the past because that source is gone.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 16, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
Beautiful
I was wondering when the next “you must be happy as pigs in shit that we’re 1-12” lazy ass argument was going to come.
So damn original.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
KnoxRam
Knoxram, I haven’t forgotten it either i.e. John Shaw’s willful destruction of the LA Rams and will mention it every time I get the chance. The true must be told. So if you have more details then what I got from the LA Times nearly 15 years ago, please call 703-389-2962 or email me at joshlowe88@yahoo.com. I will not hide behind a computer.
The one thing most of us can agree on is “the idiots that got the rams into this position in the first place are gone” per the other blogger. The idiots are John Shaw, Zygs the accountant and the wicked witch that is dead.
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