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O-line grades

i had originally posted this on another fan post, and realized that I should leave the the other post for peoples responses rather than my opinion so detailed.  So here is my assesment of the O-line.  I try to take a step back and take a neutral stance when I analyze our team.  Sometimes better than others.  Since the last game where we were victorious against Detroit, people have been so stoked on our O-line, so I figure now would be a good time for mid season grades.  

Our “great” performance was against the worst D-line we will see all year. That was apparent.  Detroit traded their best D-lineman this offseason (Cory Redding) for Julian Peterson. Now that was not saying a whole lot, so their D-line went from crappy to shitty. And although we did well for the most part, they were by NO MEANS STELLAR. Jackson broke the first tackle in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage way to many times. There should have never been that much penetration. So let’s look at our guys.

Barron- like you said is in a contract year and he has already given the coaches a reason to bench him during a game and even use a 3 man rotation at LT. He has done nothing to solidy his payday in the offseason. In fact, I can recall several times people requesting that we just start Smith since he is the future. Barron has been a disappointment. I give him a C+, because has shown some glimpses of why the team drafted him in the first round, to go along with his boneheaded mistakes (penalties anyone?)

Bell-There was a reason why I was so pissed we didn’t go after Faneca in the offseason prior to the 08 season. Bell has shown me nothing to convince me I was wrong. He has been inconsistent, ineffective, and disappointing way too often. He is getting paid premium dollars and producing at an average level. I wanted the rams to draft Duke Robinson this last offseason to try and push Bell, and if he didn’t respond, bring in the young buck to take over. Setts even replaced him after he was concussed (what a great word) and showed us how to play the position effectively. I give him a D+ this is due to a two year disappointment from someone that we had such high hopes for.

Brown- I was a little skeptical in playing him at OG money but the kid has looked good for the most part. He was definitely not the biggest offeason transaction with Haynesworth bringing in what he did, but he has been arguably the most impactful. He has been very effective in preventing the pocket from collapsing in front of Bulger. He and Incognito have played very well together. I give him a B+. The best part is that he is young and that he is still learning he position.

Incognito- besides keeping a lid on his emotions, he has transitioned into a Professional. He used to struggle with dumb penalties and allowing his personal vendetta to look past his task at hand on the line. I love the fact that he is a bargain, a blue collar hard worker, and that he plays with a mean streak. I give him a B, wish he didn’t get hurt.

Smith- Well I think it is still too early to tell, considering the kid is still learning. He is coming along well, but still needs to focus on his technique. He is obviously a specimen, and I will be watching closely as the season goes on. He has struggled against some of the elite of the league (Freeney anyone?) but that is part of the learning curve. Maybe I am a little critical considering I really wanted Curry, but I do think that he played well this last weekend. I give him a B-. As long as he continues to progress I will be happy.

The bench has been great, they have filled in for the starters quite well and when called upon they responded. Setts and Goldberg have gotten the job done and been versatile. I look forward to Greco coming in and helping this group. I give the bench an A-. They have surpassed expectations and often times surpassed the performance of the person they filled in for.

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…especially with Setts and Goldberg grades. Bell has done nothing for us – can we get a refund? And I still think Barron is a slug with NO intensity or desire to win. I believe his presence hurts the team. He’s long gone now that his contract is up. Maybe Barron, Bulger and McMichael will all end up together next year with a new team like Tampa Bay or Cleveland.

by edpjr on Nov 6, 2009 10:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Grades

I think there are a few points where you are a bit off. I like to be as objective about the Rams as I can but, even I think you have been a bit harsh on a few points.

Barron – Barron has been an above average LT this year at worst. Sure, he might have been benched once for a lack of passion but his performance has not at all been lacking. He has only been credited with giving up one sack and has only had two false start penalties so far this year. I think you might be judging Barron unfairly based on past seasons. It is hard to be disappointed in his performance so far in 2009. Personally I would give him a B+.

You are very quick to trash Barron and Bell but they have only combined for 2.0 total sacks against in 16 games between them. At the same time you give a lot of praise to Brown and Incognito who have combined for 4.5 sacks in one less game. Now, I’m not saying that Brown nor Incognito has played poorly, I’m just saying that you should remove previous years and previous impressions while evaluating their performance for 2009.

All the O-line stats I got are from http://yesnetwork.stats.com/fb/findplayer.asp?type=position&position=91

by BigMac545 on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bell has been hurt

Which games are the 16 where he only gave up 2.0 sacks?

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by CoachConnors on Nov 10, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Incognito was benched

Everyone seems to agree that he’s above average, but he was benched after his silly penalty tirade earlier this year. Yes, it was brief – but that was one example.

by Oski Bear on Nov 12, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey guy

this assessment was soley for this year. If I was including last years performance, it would not have been a C+, that I can tell you that. His grade would have been much more like a straight D. Obviously, you don’t pay a whole lot of attention to this site, because I have supported the Barron move to the LT spot since the offseason. Yet, I have certain expectations from both 1st round picks or highly paid FAs. I expect consistency and production. I do not look at the stats, but more so the performance. The stats only tell a portion of the story. Just because Bulger has only been sacked a few times from that side there is more to it. It fails to mention him forcing a ball early due to the collapse of a pocket, it doesn’t show the fact that he has allowed defenders to hold the line and get their hands up to block passes. It doesn’t show body language and effort. There is no doubting he has talent, in fact if you read the post you would have saw a quote “because he has shown some glimpses of why the team drafted him in the first round…” but at this point the question you have to ask yourself is- do you want this guy to protect your QB going forward in the future?
I still can’t believe you were willing to give him a B+……HAHAHAHAHA what a joke.

by CaliRamMan on Nov 12, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Didn’t VanRam do a post a couple weeks ago which showed that the Rams are best when running the ball off the left tackles’ hips? If I remember correctly it didn’t matter which one. Since Barron is our left tackle doesn’t that mean that he has been crucial in opening the Rams biggest holes in the running game? Combine that with the low sack totals as pointed out above doesn’t it stand to reason that Barron has been the best overall blocker in the Rams line up? All of that being said penalties kill drives and I understand why fans would be upset with his mistakes. Yet if we had something that resembled a passing game 5 yards can be made up by good teams, but not this one. Still the constant, and in my opinion, irrational bashing of Alex Barron is really turning me off to this blog. Stop letting your preconceived notions about the man over look the fact he is having a damn good year at the left side.

by PSKPSE on Nov 10, 2009 2:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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