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3k's 2010 Mock Draft, v2.0 (Nov. 4th)

This is often all you see of Ndamukong Suh - his arms and legs wrapped around the QB as the fumble he just caused goes bouncing away.  Will he be the #1 overall pick?  Will he be the Rams next 1st round D-lineman?  Will he both?!

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This is often all you see of Ndamukong Suh - his arms and legs wrapped around the QB as the fumble he just caused goes bouncing away. Will he be the #1 overall pick? Will he be the Rams next 1st round D-lineman? Will he both?!

  I dropped a quick mock draft after the 2009 draft, but quite a bit has changed.  After the fold, I've got my second mock draft.  Join me, shall you not?

 

Star-divide

  I went ahead and projected the rest of each team's schedule and then calculated each team's strength of schedule to have a hypothetically accurate draft order. And bear in mind, too many things happen leading up to the draft, so I know most of these will be way off, so calm down.  Very few people saw Tyson Jackson going 3rd to the Chiefs or HeyBey going ahead of Crabtree.  Let's do this.

Round 1

1.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1-15) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

   This is becoming a consensus pick for Tampa, though I've seen few mocks with them picking first.  I could see them going after Russell Okung (OT, Oklahoma St.) or Eric Berry (S, Tennessee) here, but I would think with D-line being such a huge need and having Suh and Carlos Dunlap (DE, Florida) available, one of those would be the top pick if Tampa leads off the draft.

2.) Kansas City Chiefs (3-13) - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma St.

   The Chiefs get a young anchor for their line and can move Branden Albert back to his natural position.  I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to move Larry Johnson (or just cut him outright), so C.J. Spiller (RB, Clemson) would make sense if they're a bit lower down in the draft order.

3.) Cleveland Browns (3-13) - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee

   So three picks in and no QBs.  But the talent of these three is tough to ignore, especially here for Cleveland.  Berry is a vulture at the back of the Vols defense, and he could do the Browns a world of good at the back of theirs.  The Browns have a lot of rebuilding to do with Jamal Lewis at the end of his career the Quinn/Anderson saga in full flux, and their GM being fired - Berry is the kind of player you can lean your defense on as you fill in the gaps.

4.) Tennesee Titans (3-13) - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma

   Kerry Collins is finished, and Vince Young has been handed the reins to see if he can reignite his career.  I have my doubts.  Nevertheless, at #4, the Titans have a chance to grab the QB of their choice and build an offense that starts with Sam Bradford and ends with Chris Johnson.  Not bad at all.

5.) Oakland Raiders (3-13) - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

   *insert Al Davis joke here*  Look, we all know Al is pretty damn wacko and he loves the workout warriors.  Well, Dunlap is set to drop one hell of a combine.  Richard Seymour will likely hit the free agent market; Dunlap gives them a freak athlete on the D-line.

6.) Detroit Lions (3-13) - Brandon Spikes, MLB, Florida

   I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lions take Spikes here even if Larry Foote does come back.  Spikes is a terror of a MLB, even when he's not gouging out opposing RBs' eyes.  Similar to the Stafford pick in this year's draft, Spikes gives them a centerpiece to build around.

7.) Seattle Seahawks (4-12) - Jake Locker, QB, Washington

  The Seahawks need to revitalize their offense starting with QB.  Locker will be riding a hometown media wave into Seattle giving the franchise a much needed jolt.  John Morgan at Field Gulls wrote a great scouting report on Locker that was heavily against drafting Locker in the first; however, with Hasselbeck under contract through 2010, the Seahawks could be justified in drafting Locker and letting Hasselbeck mentor him for a year.  It may not be the prettiest conversion, but it could be the most beneficial.

8.) Washington Redskins (4-12) - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame

  In drafting Clausen, the Skins get an accurate, intelligent, game manager.  He'll need a younger weapon then Santana Moss, Antwan Randle-El or Chris Cooley soon, but this gives whoever the next head coach is (assuming Zorn is booted this offseason) his signal caller of the future.

9.) Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11) - Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss

  I talked it over with Jags fans thinking DE and QB were their biggest holes, and I came away thinking the same.  The Jags get a force at DE that BPAniks could even justify, especially if Hardy has a good combine.  Still, I wouldn't be surprised to see a QB here, except for Tebow.  I just don't see any franchise sacrificing their rationality for their emotionality.

10.) St. Louis Rams (5-11) - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St.

  This is the lowest you'll find the Rams on any mock anywhere.  And sure, you could chalk it up to homerism, but if the Rams go 4-4 in their last 8 games, I'll be sure to remind you.  Besides, it's a mock draft; I'm trying to predict schedules, free agency moves, roster cuts, combine and pro day performance along with franchise cultures (i.e. the Raiders & Redskins).  Cut me some slack.

  In any case, I've got the Rams taking the best WR prospect in the draft who brings not just size, speed and hands, but return experience.  You could certainly make the case for a QB here or Gerald McCoy (DT, Oklahoma), but if the Rams are sitting at 10 and Dez falls this far, I'd be surprised if he isn't their pick.

11.) Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma

  With "The Real" McCoy (apologies), Buffalo continues rebuilding their trenches after using three of their four day 1 picks in the 2009 draft on linemen.  In McCoy, they get a serious interior pass rusher to play alongside Marcus Stroud.  Buffalo could go a number of different ways here, but given how line focused their last draft was, they could continue to go that route again, and form a very impressive foundation for the future.

12.) San Francisco 49ers via Carolina Panthers (6-10) - Taylor Mays, S, USC

  This one just makes too much sense.  The Niners get the wrecking ball at the back of the Trojans' defense who adds even more punch to the Mike Singletary Project.  If the Niners do make this a reality, they would be amassing a very violent defense.

13.) 49ers (7-9) - Colt McCoy, QB, Texas

  On the other side of the ball, it's pretty apparent that Singletary has never been comfortable with Alex Smith, Shaun Hill or ex-Niner J.T. O'Sullivan.  Taking a QB with one of their two 1st rounders would give him "his guy" moving forward with an offense that includes the RB tandem of Gore and Coffee (or as I like to call them CoffeeGore - it sounds like a B horror movie about a Starbucks) and the suddenly fantastic fantasy TE Vernon Davis.

14.) Green Bay Packers (8-8) - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

  Ryan Grant is a bit of an enigma, and adding the electric Spiller makes them less one-dimensional.  They could certainly use him on special teams as well.  I don't think he'd hold up well if he has to carry a team alone early in his career, but similar to Dallas' Felix Jones, he could be a wonderful change of pace for almost any team.

15.) New York Jets (8-8) - Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU

  It's a win-win with this pick whether or not the Jets re-sign Braylon Edwards.  The Jets could use another WR to help Sanchez along, and LaFell is the best blocking WR I've seen in a long, long time.  He's got great body control, but he has to improve on his hands to be a more reliable possession target at the NFL level.  As a Rams fan, I'd love to see us get his teammate, Terrance Toliver, later on in the draft if he declares, but we'll end up with too high of a pick to nab LaFell.

16.) Miami Dolphins (8-8) - Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama

  Miami has shown a knack for the specialist: in last year's 2nd round, it was future wildcat anchor Pat White, and in the '07 draft it was (as ESPN finally decided to notice) kick returner supreme Ted Ginn, Jr.  In Mount Cody, they get another specialist: a elephantine nose tackle for their 3-4.  I say specialist, because he lacks stamina (ESPN insider only).  He's lost about 50 pounds...to slim down to about 375.  The ESPN label for him is going to be "one-dimensional", but I don't think that will stop the Dolphins.  He can be a huge asset (pun intended).

17.) San Diego Chargers (9-7) - Mike Williams, WR, Syracuse

  I'm making this based on what I think the effect will be from Williams' combine & pro day.  I say that for two reasons.  First, if it was on talent and collegiate production, I'd grade him as a mid-1st rounder.  But he's had so many off field problems, and this last one persuaded him to abruptly end his college football career.  That second reason would drop him down, but I think his pre-draft work will remind people that he can be a force on the football field - think Brandon Marshall 2.0.  While Vincent Jackson may re-sign with the Chargers, they could use another weapon to help Philip Rivers guide these team back to the post-season.

18.) Cincinnati Bengals (9-7) - Jahvid Best, RB, Cal

  Cincinnati is making the most out of Cedric Benson right now; adding Best gives them a great duo that can offer power and speed, brute force and lithe athleticism.  Cincy has shown this year that they have a very well balanced team with very few holes; more than most teams, they can afford to commit to the draft with a BPA mindset.  That being the case, I don't really expect Best to be the pick.  Either someone more talented will slip through the cracks (as in Spiller or Mays who they could team up with former sledgehammer Rey Maualuga) or they'll grade someone higher than Best as in OLBs Rolando McClain (Alabama) or Sean Weatherspoon (Missouri), Joe Haden (CB, Florida) or Sergio Kindle (DE, Texas).

19.) Denver Broncos via Chicago Bears (9-7) - George Selvie, DE, South Florida

  Denver produced a gem out of Elvis Dumervil, a former 4th round pick out of Louisville who they transitioned to OLB in their 3-4.  In Selvie, they have a tough decision to make.  He'll list a couple inches taller and a couple pounds lighter.  They could always package him on the same side as Dumervil to toggle the weights on that side, but who knows.  That's a depth chart decision for Josh McDaniels to make.

20.) Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama

  Dallas has shown a penchant for signing aging LBs recently in Zach Thomas and Keith Brooking.  In McClain, they get a steal in BPA terms.  McClain is a technical LB with a shell of desire and tenacity wrapped in a 255 lb. frame.  The exact kind of LB the Cowboys need in a younger body.

21.) Houston Texans (10-6) - Joe Haden, CB, Florida

  Haden is the best corner coming out this year.  In fact, I would put him alone in the top tier of CB prospects.  It's just not a good class for CBs this year.  That bodes well for Houston who could certainly use his services.  Their best CB, Dunta Robinson, is set to be a free agent this offseason.  Like other teams above, they'd be better off with this pick whether or not they bring their key FA back.

22.) New England Patriots (10-6) Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

  Ben Watson never really developed into a top-tier TE, though he is a nice option.  Gresham would provide Brady & the Pats more than just a nice option; he's 3 inches taller than Watson and more athletic, IMO.  In fact, he's got tons of raw talent, but his game needs quite a bit of polishing.  The Pats have the right kind of staff that can turn Gresham from a prospect into a superstar very quickly.

23.) New York Giants (11-5) - Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse

  The Giants are struggling to impose the kind of defensive will they did when Spagnuolo was the DC.  With both Fred Robbins and Barry Cofield playing in contract years, the Giants could use a powerful DT like Arthur Jones to open things up for Osi Umenyiora and Justin Tuck.

24.) Arizona Cardinals (12-4) - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

  The Cardinals drafted a solid RT in Levi Brown in 2007; they can get their other tackle in Williams and solidify their O-line for the good of their running duo - Hightower and Wells.  Now about that QB issue...

25.) Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4) - Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa

  The Curtain has gotten mixed results from RT Willie Colon.  He's got solid upside, but between the penalties and the mental mistakes, I think the Steelers could let him walk since his contract ends after this season.  Bulaga is a meaty tackle who can withstand the late season weather in Pittsburgh.

26.) Minnesota Vikings (12-4) - Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

  Back-to-back Big 10 picks give the Norsemen a force behind their ridiculous D-line.  Weatherspoon is the Tigers' leader on defense, and he could carry that to the NFL under the tutelage of OLBs Chad Greenway and Ben Leber, who are both playing under contracts that expire after what would be Weatherspoon's rookie season.

27.) Atlanta Falcons (12-4) - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

  While I'm skeptical of JP-P having just arrived to FBS football from the Juco ranks, he has taken some of the focus away from Selvie.  He measures well and he's definitely played his way into contention for the draft.  I wonder if he'll declare for the draft or wait a year for the DE prospect pool to thin out, because it's going to be overflowing with talent in this draft.

28.) Indianapolis Colts (13-3) - Navorro Bowman, OLB, Penn St.

  Bowman injects some technique to the Colts' power defense.  His biggest flaw is his pass rushing skills, but with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis, the Colts can absorb that flaw easily.

29.) Seahawks via Broncos (13-3) - Damian Williams, WR, USC

 DWill is a solid athletic WR prospect who would give rookie Jake Locker a more athletic option than TJ Housh.  He needs to add some bulk to his frame, but he should have time.  He is the most polished route-runner in the draft, so it would add some certainty in that aspect tot the passing game.

30.) New Orleans Saints (14-2) - Sergio Kindle, DE, Texas

  The Saints could bolster their defense, which has been impressive this season, by adding Kindle.  He's a high energy, high impact LB/DE prospect who could be the eventual successor to Scott Fujita.

31.) Baltimore Ravens (12-4) - Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois

  My pick for AFC champions right now, the Ravens can't make the most out of Joe Flacco due to their WR corps.  Derrick Mason came out of "retirement" to return to the Ravens, but they can't rely on that moving forward.  Benn is of solid build and has electric talent, but he is very unpolished.  Flacco and he could be a serious tandem for the Ravens for years to come if Coach Harbaugh can develop Benn into a more technical weapon.

32.) Philadelphia Eagles (11-5) - Everson Griffen, DE, USC

  Griffen is a powerful end with above average speed who is still improving.  After the Eagles win the Super Bowl, they'll look to fill their last D-line hole with EG.  The Eagles line is young and talented - a mixture that Griffen would fit in perfectly with.

 

So there it is, v 2.0.  I'll add a second round next time; right now, things are bound to change so signnificantly that I don't know if it warrants the effort to even put a second round together.

Some names that didn't make the 1st round: Tim Tebow, Jevan Snead, Jonathan Dwyer, Ciron Black, Jerry Hughes, Trevard Lindley and Earl Thomas.

Holler at me.

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I don't see any way

Tim Tebow slips past both Jacksonville and Washington….especially if Washington hires Jon Gruden as their new Head Coach. He pretty much masterbates every time he talks about Tebow.

And I’m curious, what are the 4 games you have the Rams winning? I’m sure Tennessee’s on there (then again, you have them winning 2 more games and it’d be hard to think a Titan fan isn’t looking at the Rams as one of their upcoming wins). After that, I’m guessing you went Seattle, Houston, San Francisco?

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 4, 2009 12:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

answers galore

  I can see Tebow going there, but I think GMs are going to really bear down on coaches who fall in love with Tebow’s intangibles. Florida has tried to push him into more of a prospect this season to horrible results. Here’s what McShay said after Tebow played Tennessee:

He is certainly smart and determined enough to eventually make the transition, but the team that drafts him must have a quarterback coach who is a great teacher and also very patient, and the organization that invests what still might be a very high draft pick will have to be willing to wait for Tebow to develop into a pro-style quarterback.
That is a risky proposition given the current expectations placed on rookie quarterbacks, especially given the concerns about Tebow’s footwork and slow, elongated delivery. The footwork can be fixed but the struggles of recent draft picks who were forced to alter their throwing motions are just one more reason to wonder whether Tebow can make the complete transition to the NFL.
We had hoped to see something more out of Tebow against an NFL-style defense but the same concerns remain. His struggles were not all his fault and it’s hard to knock him after what he did to carry his team, but Tebow still has a lot of work to do to improve his NFL draft stock.

  As for the Rams’ remaining schedule, I have us down for wins against Seattle, Chicago, Tennessee & San Francisco.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW 3k

I’m impressed… you have us down for a win @ “daaaa-Bears!” in December… did you run out and get some Swagger too? As much as I’d love to see that happen, I dono bout dat

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Nov 4, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll buy potential wins vs Seattle, SF and Chicago - which would be great.

The Titans remind me some of the 2002 Rams team that started 0-5, then won 5 in a row, and ended up 7-9. Tenn may be a sleeping giant that just awakened too late. They still have a lot of NFL calibre players, and may’ve just needed to dump aging Kerry Collins. Houston is a team that’s gonna be tough for good clubs to beat.

by edpjr on Nov 4, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i like clausen if we get the first overall pick and then maybe a DE or golden tate in the second

by Habte E on Nov 4, 2009 12:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

only good irish QB lately has been

yes Joe Montana thats been it

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Nov 4, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate that argument

What does that have to do with anything?

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Its like saying Suh will be a bust because of Carriker

The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.

by Carneros on Nov 4, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no Snead

but he has kind of faded this season

Turf Show Times

by VanRam on Nov 4, 2009 12:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

he has

looked awful against quality, aggresive defenses. He has made rookie mistakes with poor throws. Sucks becasue I started to become a believer, at least until his last 3 games.

by CaliRamMan on Nov 4, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this seems like a great draft year

there could be second rounders in 2010 that would be first rounders in many years

Turf Show Times

by VanRam on Nov 4, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Definitely true

although it depends on who actually comes out

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NO BRASKA

Unless its G-Wistrom,forgetaboutit.

by RAMIFICATION on Nov 4, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd love 4 more Ws...

…and especially division wins. I think Seattle is definitely vulnerable. Arizona is vulnerable on their bad days, and if we’d limited our mistakes I wonder how the SF game could have gone. We’ll see. Can any of you guys remember a time where we felt positive about a 1-7 start? At least I feel positive, and I can’t wait for the 2nd half.

In any case, as for your mock draft, I think it’s pretty solid. It’s optimistic (in regards to the rest of the season) to think the Rams will be at ten, but if we are, I think we’d be picking up a guy in Dez Bryant that is even better at this stage than Michael Crabtree was. For his size, he has some serious burners, I’d love this pick. We’d line up:

1. Bryant
2. Avery/Robinson
3. Robinson/Avery
4. Burton
5. Amendola/Gibson

I think that would be a more than formidable group, especially with the ceiling Bryant has. I think he told the NCAA an innocent, panic-induced lie. The ruling was ridiculous. I therefore don’t think he would be in violation of the sacred 4 pillars (David Vobora anyone?). We’ll see. I still want Suh in a Rams uniform, but I’m not in favor of tanking games to get him. Let’s finish the season strong! Go RAMS!!!

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Nov 4, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If Suh is gone

I don’t know if Bryant would be the best available for the Rams… depending on how the season ends we could choose C. Dunlap. I think Spags would like to concentrate on a D lineman this draft. You’d think end since Little is our most experienced lineman and it’d free cap space to either rework his contract for less money and less playing time or cut him all together. It’s not a far fetched idea since IMO it follows what has and is happening.

Tho Bryant has a lot of skill he’s still a rookie WR which is what we are loaded with; granted his skill level is greater than our current flock of receivers. I’d still think a young vet wanting #1 WR could be had. I’ve pointed to A. Boldin before and he’d be a great fit IMO, but it’ll come down to money. Personally I think the cards will let him go rather than pay him.

by RamsFan1979 on Nov 4, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

how can dez bryant be suspended for the rest of the season while Spikes goes out like a mad man poking dudes eyes out and is only suspended for one half of a game!

Someone please explain to me

by Habte E on Nov 4, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because the NCAA

is a joke.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Nov 4, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it has something to do with him lying to the NCAA about it too.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 4, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

About going to Deion Sanders house

was it not? How does that compare to eye gouging on any level.

Oh wait, it doesn’t.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Nov 4, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He only lied because he was put on the spot...

…and since he was being asked, it’s obvious he thought he may have done something wrong. I’m not saying he should’ve lied, but geez he deserved more rope than that. As far as I know he’s a good kid, one of the most electrifying in College FB, and simply wanted to get better by being mentored by Deion. I respect that, and I understand why he panicked and lied. Such BS. If I were an Ok State fan I’d be really pissed.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Lending one player rope is a slippery slope.

What happens when another player does something similar and he’s not such a “good kid”?

I understand when an organization like the NCAA has to draw a hard line on things. This is big business and when you open yourself up to interpretation, every kid who’s ever been wronged is going to sue or fight. It prevents them from having legal battles and from wasting tons of energy on every single case.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 5, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with

TorjanRam. Suspension for the entire last season the kid will play is too harsh of a punishment. I understand they want to make an example of the kid to prevent others from lieing to them as well, but I think this was an extreme punishment. Suspend the kid for 2-3 games and let him finish off his college career. Its best for the kid and its best for the sport and the punishment is well stated that if you lie you will pay a price.

by CaliRamMan on Nov 5, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unrealistic

I think it is highly unlikley there will be 3 picks before the rams are on the clock, let alone 3 qb’s taken before the rams pick. But this would be a good draft if we can get an all-star WR in the first and tebow and sean lee are still left in the second

by bswish on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Sean Lee is 2nd round right now

I’d be surprised if anyone jumped on him before the 3rd

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we have a top 5 pick,

I would like to trade down a few spots and take a qb, but if we can’t trade then I would say Ndamukong Suh, he should be a star. But weren’t Country Brown and Glenn Dorsey the next star defensive linemen.

S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.

by srdmad on Nov 4, 2009 1:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Not as impressive as Suh...

…I really mean that. Unbelievably dominant.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Nov 4, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes he is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5h8_dm1hes&feature=related

If you look at his stats they’ve improved every year, he’s only had one major injury, he’s athletic for a big man, and when developed will be a beast. He could be a key in us pressuring the opposing qb into making mistakes.

by RamsFan1979 on Nov 4, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't they say that

about Glen Dorsey?

He’s still a youngster but still…

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Nov 4, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A 2 yr review is kinda unfair

and unrealistic IMO. Also IMO, Dorsey doesn’t hold a candle to Suh. To each their own tho, we all want the Rams to improve which is what we should all remember.

by RamsFan1979 on Nov 5, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did they not say

he was the next Warren Sapp? I believe I saw that very quote. I’ll find it if you don’t believe me.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Nov 6, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What ever happened

to Gerald McCoy wasn,t he supposed to be a highly rated DT

RAY

by ray c on Nov 4, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He still is

I had him going 11th above

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd much rather..

grab a legit #1 WR/DT/OLB candidate in the 1st round than a QB. If Boller/Null can’t babysit the position for a year then helllloooo Jeff Garcia.

Good job 3k.

by mooseknuckles41 on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

As much as we need

dez bryant, we need a QB to lob the ball to our recievers, Sam Bradford NO HELL NO, we need an athletic QB not a stand in the pocket fall down wrong and hurt my shoulder Qb if the rams draft bradford I quit, Colt McCoy we be a better target and a few others

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Nov 4, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i like your effort

when i originally saw the rams at ten i thought you were assuming they’d trade down because i think that’s what might happen. I love your optimism it’ll be a tough rest of the season im thinking more top 5 but who knows. Hey we drafted a first round receiver in torry holt in 99 maybe superbowl next year with null itd be picture perfect.

by keeperskillz24 on Nov 4, 2009 2:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

qb

If today is the draft, Jimmy Clausen will be the first qb taken in the draft and not Sam Bradford.

Colt Mccoy will be a second rounder.

by justin.shui on Nov 4, 2009 3:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

There’s a lot of love for Jake Locker too

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we get the # 1 pick it should be traded for a late 1st and early 2nd..

round picks we despertly need depth and one guy won’t change this team. Or package it for NFL experienced players. But if they do use it I hope they take Locker.

by Go_Blues on Nov 4, 2009 4:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I agree that in a rebuilding project the best strategy would be to amass as many picks as possible. The problem is though that it’s tough to get a team to move up into the top spot. There’s plenty of teams out there with glaring needs but the size of the no.1 pick’s contract puts alot of teams off.

by IrishRamsFan on Nov 5, 2009 2:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrc2z-XEy8E

Guess Suh is out of the question huh? Lmao.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

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by TrojanRam on Nov 4, 2009 5:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's his only off the field issue

He also suffered from a knee injury that forced him out of his true freshman season. Other than that, he’s pretty damn blemish free.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we end up picking where 3K has us picking

Well then that means the Rams would have significantly increased in a certain area in order to have won 4 more games. I would assume the only way in which the Rams would be able to finish the year 5-11 would be if our QB to WR connection begins clicking in the next 8 weeks. In this scenario, it would most likely mean that Avery would regain his form from last season and that Burton or Gibson stepped up as well. With us getting Robinson back next season as well, would we really have to draft a WR with our first pick?

by jb22 on Nov 4, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Now that's interesting

I was going more off of defensive improvements, but that’s an interesting question. In the end, I don’t think it’s about “have to”; I think the Rams are “able to” go WR. IOW, they can avoid a need pick and go BPA.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Either way is definitely possible, but I just don’t see Bulger playing any better. It’s going to have to do with the O-Line opening holes for SJAX and giving Bulger enough time to throw it to Karney.

Simple as that.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Nov 4, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see him throwing it to Fells

Why doesn’t Spags make the right call and bench McMicheal? Fells has shown he has the hands to be a useful checkdown option for Bulger

by IrishRamsFan on Nov 5, 2009 2:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We get whipped

We are good enough to stuff the run. Our D is respectable—but where are we killed early in every game? Coverage deep. I think we have to address deep and slot coverage in the Draft. All the other Draft positions are great, but we are dieing deep.

by Knoxfan on Nov 4, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

But

a QB can’t throw deep if he doesn’t have time…

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 4, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

But-But

I know you are correct on your point. I know the cure has to come from both the D-line and tight coverage. I was more or less pointing to the coverage positions that are NOT being discussed to provide and help in the passing defense. If we don’t actually sack the QB, we get burned. That’s a heavy load for the D-line to carry.

by Knoxfan on Nov 4, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If we didn't draft a qb first round,

couldn’t we trade some future picks to get another first round pick to take a qb? That’s how the Giants got Manning. Though looking back on it, the Chargers drafted Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding with those picks that they got. But what are the chances that the picks we give up, would actually turn out to be good players if we kept the picks and used them?

S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.

by srdmad on Nov 5, 2009 12:10 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Just my thoughts

I feel like QB is the way to go. These guys coming out are all Heisman type guys, and any one of them could end up being HOF material. I think we have improved in every aspect of our offense (if our WR’s get healthy) this year, except QB. I could see us going .500 next year with a better guy at QB.

However, I think Spags looks at our D and says their not doing their job. Personally I blame alot of the D’s faults on the O being unable to stay on the field, but I see Spags trying to frist establish a dominant D before a serviceable O (maybe in 2000 Ravens fashion). I would predict DL in the first round, and maybe WR second, QB third, LB fourth, but I think QB would be the best decision. Maybe give Null some playing time and we’ll see if we even need a QB.

by kinzav29 on Nov 5, 2009 12:18 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

QB!

I feel like drafting a QB will not make our team any better for next year. But, drafting someone on the O-line or defense will better our team for next year (compared to drafting a Qb). So.. what is the real question? Are there enough players coming out of college in 2 years to fill in the final pieces (assuming we have a 10-15th pick rather than a 1-10 pick).

Redzonophobia - characterized by w/e the Rams do in the red zone

by heinzketchup on Nov 5, 2009 3:53 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Note to Rams.............

stop winning you got the 1 outta the way. I think football should also have a lottery like hockey and basketball, so teams don’t benefit from throwing games. A.L.A Tampa Bay

by Go_Blues on Nov 5, 2009 4:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

why?

that means the patriots or colts get the 1st over all pick that doesn’t seem fair. The draft is the one thing that Detroit gets to look forward to every year. And sadly ram fans the past few years.

by keeperskillz24 on Nov 5, 2009 5:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

What is the best thing to do?

we should what and see what Bulger, the offense, and
d line do the rest of the season. Because if Bulger can make tds not intersep. than the rams should keep him, if not get rid of him or make him back up.
But if the rams off.is horrible than go with a explosive offensive player.If the d line stinks than get a DT or DE in the draft. Lets take it one week at a time

by brians rams on Nov 5, 2009 10:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thank You 3K

I read this post and was impressed by the effort 3K put into this, I admire his consistant contributions here, and don’t know if I ever said this before but he adds as much or more enjoyment for me here as anyone has. So I want to take the time to thank him.

One more thing. I want you to know 3K that my prayers are with you and the rest of our brothers and sisters in the US Army, I hope you didn’t lose any really close friends at Ft. Hood. I was active Navy, my brother Army, I had a cousin who lost his life at Pearl Harbor and an Uncle who invaded Germany in ’44. I respect and love our military men and women to the bone. To approximate a quote I heard in a movie last week, “I love this country and make no mistake about it, I will bleed on this flag to keep the stripes red”.

My heroes had the heart to lose their lives out on a limb
And all I remember Is thinking, I want to be like them

by CoachConnors on Nov 6, 2009 8:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs


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