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Race to the bottom: Draft derby at week 12

With three games out of the way this week, the St. Louis Rams are locked in a titanic three way struggle for the top spot in the NFL draft. Let's take a look at how the race to the bottom - and the race to the top of the draft - is shaping up.

The Rams, Cleveland Browns and Tampa Bay Buccaneers share a three-way tie for the league's worst record with one win apiece. Should the season end with those records still notched at one win each, the tiebreaker for draft order is strength of schedule, the first tiebreaker that is. To be more specific, the team with the easiest schedule gets the first pick. Right now, the strength of schedule puts the draft order like this: Cleveland, Tampa Bay, St. Louis. 

Now, there are lots of games between now and the end of the season, when an injury or two can make the toughest opponents vulnerable. Detroit, with two wins, is in still in the race for the top three picks. Right now, it looks like Cleveland has the schedule that could allow for a couple of wins, but they're also the worst team in the mix, IMO. With the Rams missing so many key players in their most winnable game left on the schedule, another top pick seems a sure thing. 

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Why is Colt McCoy's stock dropping so quickly?

At the beginning of the season, he was projected as a top 5 pick, now he’s not even in the first round. His stats are down a little from last year but they’re still not bad. He’s still completed 70% of his passes for his career, and could be leading be leading the Heisman race. Why is he dropping?

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by Carneros on Nov 29, 2009 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

He also

had a monster game Saturday too

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Nov 29, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder that

as well. I have been watching the QB’s more and really like two: Claussen and McCoy. Both would work well in our system and think would have a bright future here.

by RamsFan1979 on Nov 29, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

clausen sounds like he may be available in round 2. Though I still think I would rather have Keenum or Pike.

by 81 Witness on Nov 29, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Perfect

we get our Suh in the first, nab Clausen in 2 (or McCoy due to stovk falling and donno why)

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Nov 29, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Just heard something seriously interesting...

Charlie Weis may be OUT at Notre Dame, and he has been reportedly contacted by a few NFL clubs for OC duty.

Clausen and Weis… hmmmm ..

Can’t help but think that COULD be possible.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Nov 29, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

I hope he drops to us in the 2nd round

I think we would be very lucky to be able to draft Suh and then have Colt McCoy drop in our laps in the 2nd round like how JL fell to us this year. Sign a top young Free agent WR and we’d be set to make some noise in the NFC West and coul push for the playoffs! What you think of that? We can hope right?

by revrue914 on Nov 29, 2009 11:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

The interesting part is

we are getting a lot stronger at WR.. Laurent back (hopefully at full speed), Amendola looks good, Avery coming on, Gibson looks promising.. Ruvell Martin is just getting first team reps… plus the new kid we just picked up..

I mean, i’m not so sure we may not be OK even if we don’t grab a WR next year. Not saying we don’t need a strong #1, but we have a lot of young guys and who knows, maybe one of the unknowns can step up.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Nov 29, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

fact is, we need #2 RB

abd with Ogbanaya active, we’re gonna get a good look today.. and i’m glad. We need to start evaluating NOW.. I hate it when it feels like we wasted picks (Null, Ogbanaya). Let’s see what they can do please.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Nov 29, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Just asking...

Why is Weis considered desirable? This is a man whose “considered schematic advantage” didn’t even work at Notre Dame. Why does anyone suspect he’ll be great in the NFL, especially when none of the former assistants under Bellicheat have performed very well after having left the Cheatriots?

by victorian on Nov 29, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

This would be perfect

If we do pick up Suh first round and some how Clausen is on the board second round that would be great.
This is what I think they should draft in order of needs
DT
QB
LB
DE/RB

by brians rams on Nov 29, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions  

WOW CLAUSEN WILL NOT DROP IN THE 2ND ROUND!

clausen is a franchise quarterback! i was watching the notre dame standford game! clausen HAS AN AMAZING DEEP BALL! i mean amazing! he has better pocket presence now… im not sure but he was gettin pressured stepped up and made a throw to hughes… once again clausen is a top 5 pick guarantee if he decides to leave to the NFL… the thing is if weis stays for another year clausen will stay too for his coach who he says is the reason he came to notre dame… which is unlikely to happen clausen and maybe dez bryant in 2nd round his stock dropped and legarrte blount… or too many big names??

by rams3!!! on Nov 29, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

I like Blount in the 4-7th rounds

       But I’m not impressed with Clausen anymore.

by dbcouver on Nov 29, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

why

wouldnt you be he came back and has won many games for notre dame. tough son of a bitch was injured came back in the game and won! clausen future qb

by rams3!!! on Nov 29, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: I just found another good guy to look into at QB

Drew Willy. Good not great size at 6-3 217 lbs. From his scouting report, I think he is worth a very long look. I don’t know why no teams are interested in him (he’s currently a FA), maybe I missed a reason why no one wants him, but to me he looks like he could be a decent starter 2-3 years down the road or sooner if given good coaching.

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by Carneros on Nov 29, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions  

Or...

I’m wathing the Steelers game, If Dixon looks really good today we could trade for him in the offseason a la Cassel but lower scale. Through his first drive, he doesn’t look too good, but he’s only attempted one throw.

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by Carneros on Nov 29, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Dixon is a pure spread-option QB who can run

      But any passing skills you see are inconsistent enough to make it hard for him to be a # 1 unless we go to a….. DRUM ROLL PLEASE….. spread option ourselves. I’m afraid that’s still 4-5 years down the road. I would be happy with him as a backup though. I watched him enough in 2007.

by dbcouver on Nov 29, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

He was a pure spread-option QB.

That doesn’t mean he can’t learn pro-style. But I doubt he’ll be a Ram next year and I doubt whatever he does today will make much of a difference for him.

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by Carneros on Nov 29, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Mccoy seems like a tough classy kid with class and leadership, in a perfect world we draft Suh, then Colt then the back from Georgia Tech would be cool or any other rb to lighten the load on sjax before these lambs kill him prematurely

by peteyweestro on Nov 29, 2009 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

Unless McCoy drops to the third I doubt we can get all three.

I’m not sure where McCoy will go because of his confusing stock drop. So if he goes in the second we might be able to get Royster in the third. If he goes in the third we might be able to get Dwyer in the 2nd. We could get a combination of those guys, but I’m not sure RB is what we need that early. I can’t wait until April. I love me some draft.

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by Carneros on Nov 29, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

If we don't get Suh

we should trade back and stay in top 15. We might be able to grab G. McCoy. Any of the follwing would greatly help our DL: G. Hardy, D. Morgan or D. Williams. Maybe use picks 1 & 2 on any of the combo if available… wish lists are fun.

by RamsFan1979 on Dec 1, 2009 1:33 AM CST reply actions  

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