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2010 prospect watch - Nov. 27th


  The last full weekend of college football's regular season is upon us, although it's not really just a weekend sport anymore.  Ball State downed Western Michigan on Tuesday, and Texas escaped College Station with their championship push intact after defeating Texas A&M last night.  Some thoughts on those games and some stuff from around the college game after the fold.

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And I haven't been showing as much love to Mocking the Draft as I should be.  Dan runs a great site, and if you're reading this, you should stop by often.  He's got his notes for today up here.

 - Western Michigan QB Tim Hiller has really hurt his stock.  Against the mid-tier teams, his efforts have been much less impressive than Central Michigan's QB Dan LeFevour.  Take Ball St.  On Tuesday, Hiller threw just 1 TD to go with 4 INTs in a 17-22 loss; LeFevour led a 35-3 stomping of the Cardinals by going 25 for 28 and tossing 4 TDs without throwing a pick.  Or how about Michigan St.?  Here's Hiller's line - 15/37, 111 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT (14-49 loss).  And now LeFevour's - 33/46, 328 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT (29-27 win).  So yeah.

 - Yeah, with the Texas win, everyone's talking about Colt McCoy's place in the Heisman race, but the modern Heisman is a joke.  More impressive to me, and more relevant to draftism, has been the play of redshirt sophomore WR Malcolm Williams (a converted high school safety) over the last two games - 15 rec, 235 yards, 1 TD.  He won't come out this year, but if he can establish a good on-field relationship with freshman QB Garrett Gilbert, he could have a huge year next year and firmly place his stock in what could be the best top tier of WRs since the 1996 draft.

Friday action

 - Illinois @ #5 Cincinnati (12:00pm EST, ABC): Tony Pike returns to helm the Bearcats in just a couple minutes.  Pike is coming off a non-throwing hand injury, so it will be interesting to see if his approach is any different.  He's got to get in a good game this week, because Cincy has their game of the year next week against #9 Pittsburgh.  Speaking of Pitt, they're the other game I'll be watching today.  (I'm skipping Bama-Auburn.  I've seen plenty of Alabama, and Auburn is in a down year)

 - #9 Pittsburgh @ West Virginia (7:00pm EST, ESPN2): Pittsburgh is a well-built team, though they don't have any signifcant 2010 draft prospects.  They do, however, have a member in the potential 2011 WR class - Jonathan Baldwin.  At 6'5", 225 lbs., Baldwin has the size to dominate the college game.  His problem has been consistency.  He's still just a true sophomore, so he has plenty to learn.  On the other side of the ball, keep an eye on OT Selvish Capers.  He could be a 3rd round pick for a team looking to fill the RT spot.

Saturday action

 - #24 North Carolina @ North Carolina St. (12:00pm EST, ESPN2): This is a game in which DT Marvin Austin should shine.  NC St. isn't very good, and Austin needs a big game to put himself in the first round.  Also keep an eye on Tarheel OLB Bruce Carter; he just announced he's staying in school, but if the Rams go into the 2011 draft looking for a stud OLB, Carter would be a hell of a land.

 - Georgia @ #7 Georgia Tech (8:00pm EST, ABC): As we continue to discuss the need to find a more credible backup for Steven Jackson (highlighted by his recent back stiffness), one guy to keep an eye on is Ga. Tech's Jonathan Dwyer.  Dwyer has put together another incredible season, although he has stayed under the radar behind Clemson's C.J. Spiller and Cal's Jahvid Best.  Dwyer is a bit smaller than Jackson, but he is a bit faster at top speed.

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Addition to the "Friday Action"

Central Michigan vs Northern Illinois.

Since espn has banished the MAC off of the airwaves (choosing instead to show 5th place teams in BCS conferences……but I digress…..), unless you want to watch on 360, you won’t be seeing this matchup.

Right now, it’s at the half and CMU is winning 24-10.

Notables:

Dan Lefevour (CMU) – 16/28 – 159 yds, 2 tds throwing, 4 carries for 10 yards.

Bryan Schroeder (CMU) – 8 carries for 48 yds, 1 td

Chad Spann (NIU) – 12 carries for 61 yds

Chandler Harnish (NIU) – 8/13, 101 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 3 carries for (-14) yds.

Both teams sport QBs who run a lot although Lefevour is a much more accomplished passer than Harnish. Then again, Harnish is only a sophomore.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 27, 2009 1:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

btw.

here’s the running commentary over at Red and Black Attack (SBN) for the game if you don’t feel like loading up 360’s (apparently rather choppy) feed of the game.

God, I love espn. They have absolutely kicked the non-BCS conferences to the proverbial curb. It really pisses me off. And I could go on and on about it, but most of you probably don’t care too much. Anyway, I’m bored and when I’m back on line this eveneing I might just feel like pontificating on it a little just to get it off my chest.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 27, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Schroeder now making a game for himself

80 yard td run.

9 carries, 128 yds, 2 tds, 4 catches, 41 yds, 1 td.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 27, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And now it's getting ugly.

Lefevour 16 yd td pass. 38-10.

23/37, 212 yds, 3 tds, 23 yds on the ground.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 27, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay. Consider yourself lucky if you read this.

jk….

Anyway, as many of you know, I’m a pretty big fan of the MAC (probably the biggest MAC football fan any of you will ever know). So, I don’t like it much when I feel as though my boys get slighted.

Now understand, I’m extremely realistic. No, I don’t think the best MAC teams (or Sun Belt teams or WAC teams (outside of Boise St.)) can compete with the teams from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, Pac-10, etc. on a regular basis. From time to time there will be teams that do compete, but that level is rarely achieved for more than a year at a time.

And if anyone didin’t know, the reason I’m such a huge fan of the MAC is because of my alma mater, Northern Illinois University. When I started at NIU, the football team wasn’t great but the running back was. LeShon Johnson. Amazing running back who started (for me) a pretty long run of impressive running backs to come from NIU.

LeShon, Michael Turner, Garrett Wolfe to name the one’s you guys should recognize, and to be followed up by Chad Spann (and maybe Me’co Brown) on this years squad (a junior and a sophomore).

Anyway, this is where my ire with espn has developed. Espn apparently recognized the talent that these less-known/smaller schools were putting out. And since espn originally made their name on obscure sports, I figure they felt like exposing these football teams (NIU, Toledo, San Jose St., Louisiana Tech, Nevada, Ball State, Central Michigan, Troy, Miami, etc., etc.) to the nation.

So, a few years ago (4 or 5 years ago) espn and the MAC (as well as the Sun Belt and the WAC) came to an agreement that espn would put these schools on a National broadcast. The hook though was that these schools had to play these games mid-week. Okay. So, you’re going to take a bit of a hit in attendence, but you’ll get the game on national tv. The stands won’t look too impressive, but being on tv is important. I could live with that.

Well, espn has completely stabbed these conferences in the back.

For the first couple of years, everything worked fine. But then espn developed ESNPU and ESPN 360. It started last year, and has been ridiculous this year. While the MAC is still playing a huge number of games mid-week late in their seasons (last weekend they only had 2 games on Saturday), they’re lucky to get one game on tv (and that’s typically ESPNU). Instead, espn puts Syracuse or Rutgers or some other team (seems like its usually a Big East game) in place of the non-BCS games.

Heck, a lot of the time, the game, while being played on a week night, isn’t even on espn. What’s the point of that? Espn is forcing the MAC to schedule mid-week games and then doesn’t even put them on 360.

A couple of weeks ago, NIU played a Thursday “night” game that started at 5pm. Good luck getting anyone who isn’t a student to that game before kickoff. Btw, the game was on espnu.

So, this is my beef with espn. If you don’t want to show the MAC games, let them out of the contract. Hell, maybe they could hook up with Versus? (Although I’m a little concerned about the riff with DirecTV)

Anyway, sorry for the rant. Just felt like sounding off.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 27, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

heh.

I had to google “sparknotes”.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 28, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For anyone interested

NIU kind of made a game of it (well, they didn’t give up)….

CMU 45 – NIU 31

Notables:

Dan Lefevour (CMU) – 27/41 for 255 yds, 3 tds, 6 carries for 24 yds

Bryan Schroeder (CMU) – 9 carries 128 yds, 4 catches for 41 yds, 3 tds (2 rushing) (soph)

Chandler Harnish (NIU) – 17/28 for 206 yds, 2 tds, 2 ints (only his 4th int of the year…soph), 11 carries for 46 yds.

Chad Spann (NIU) – 15 carries for 76 yds, 1 td (his 19th td of the season, tied Turner for school record, he’s a junior).

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 27, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i've been kinda

half following NIU this year. I went to Southern (go dawgs), so I’m a Jerry Kill fan. I went to HS with Jon Lanum (an injury riddled RB from 5-6 years ago, and A.J Hill (redshirt freshman QB) grew up in my hometown, and I went to school with his older brother. Kill’s gottem going in the right direction it seems, and the Hill kid could be pretty great. His big brother broke most of the passing records at Southern..

by mooseknuckles41 on Nov 27, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Kill

but there’s one “stat” of his that makes me worry. In 2 years as HC of the Huskies he’s 13-12 overall but he’s yet to defeat one team with a winning record. Does this mean anything? I don’t know. But it’s beginning to become a monkey on his back.

Hopefully, with 7 wins, we’ll get another Bowl this year and he can have another chance to knock off a team with a winning record. Nevertheless, the “talk” about it won’t go away until he does.

Oh, and about Hill. I wouldn’t expect to see him play much in his career. The starting QB, Chandler Harnish, is only a sophomore and is already a 2 year starter. Plus, their number 2 QB, Demarcus Grady, is also a sophomore and did pretty well in relief of Harnish when he got hurt this year.

Grady is pretty much an option QB with a fairly strong arm but lacks accuracy (although he started to link up with WRs in his last start). Harnish is a much more well-rounded QB who can really succeed at running the ball.

Either way, Kill seems to be a huge run first type HC. There’s been games this year where they’ve thrown the ball maybe 10 or 11 times. So, being a big time QB on this team is probably not a good thing to be. If you line up behind the center, you better be able to run your ass off.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Nov 28, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's too bad

about Hill. the kid’s good. he should probably transfer to a 1AA team. I doubt Southern needs his services, as we’re set at the position too.

Anyway, always love to read your rants Tacklebox. For the record, I’m in my late twenties and I’m STILL sore from my Turkeybowl. Jesus.

by mooseknuckles41 on Nov 29, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was

Had to turn it over to the end of Bama-Auburn. That ended up being much closer than I anticipated.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Nov 27, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

who saw Mardy Gilyard yesterday?

that should be someone the rams look to get in the second round

by Habte E on Nov 28, 2009 11:32 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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