Grading the Rams & Overreaction Monday: Week 8 @ Detroit
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 7:36 AM CST
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Was it ugly? Very. Was it painful? Surely. Was it a win? Apparently. A win is a win, and I'm more than happy to accept it - the Rams deserved it. Still, this game proved we are still a pretty bad team. Let's get to the grades and overreacting.
QB: F
- Bulger did nothing to win the game yesterday. Whereas Steven Jackson put the team on his back and carried us, Bulger added extra weight to drag along. I said in my preview, "I really feel this game comes down to Bulger and his ability to dissect a poor pass defense with limited weapons." Had it not been for a fake FG and ActionJackson's heroics, Bulger would be getting a lot more heat than he is today.
- On a side note, this has to be the last season for Marc Bulger on the Rams. Cut him, take the hit, and move on. There's no reason to pay out his ridiculous contract.
- Marc Bulger likes to throw balls at D-linemen's hands.
- And on the power slide, where was the desire? Remember week 1 in Seattle when he went mouth-to-mouth with the Seahawks? That was desire. That was the will to win. I don't know where it went, but I'm not interested in trying to resurrect it in Bulger.
HB: A+
- We all know how great Steven Jackson was/is, but in case you aren't feeling my criticism of Bulger not taking over, here's what it sounds like:
So he did a rather curious thing as he walked into that huddle to start this critical, do-or-die drive. Jackson walked up one end of the huddle and down the other, peering into the faces of his teammates. He stared at the linemen, glared at the tight ends and receivers, and went facemask to facemask with his fullback with one specific purpose in mind.
"I told them, 'I just want to see if you're afraid,'" he said.
Afraid of what?
Afraid to win or scared to lose.
And here's what it looks like:
Ridiculous.
WR/TE: D
- The standout from this group? Amazingly, it was Billy Bajema who caught two balls for 43 yards including a crucial 3rd down conversion. But that says something when your blocking specialist TE was the key receiver. Sure, Fells made a great play on the FG-that-wasn't, but nothing else. Which brings up another point - Randy McMichael is done. Fells and Bajema are a receiver/blocker duo that should work unless we snag a TE in the draft, but I'd feel comfortable with those two in 2010.
- As for WR, Keenan Burton did a good job getting involved early, but once Steven Jackson took over, his services were no longer needed. Will they be next season with the return of Laurent Robinson? It's an easy no if we draft a top WR, bring one on through free agency or if Brandon Gibson (who was invisible yesterday save for a mistimed incompletion) develops into something impressive over this last half of the season. And please, please stop trying to use Donnie Avery in possession routes. You can't catch slants with your chest, or at least he can't. He showed it last year in flashes and this year and droves - he has horrible pass catching skills. Use his feet to open up defenses, not his hands PLEASE.
O-line: B+
- After a so-so opening half, the O-line turned it on in the second half opening up chasms for Steven Jackson to rumble through. There's a reason why he averaged 7.4 yards per run in the second half and it was the play of the line. Was it a coincidence that Jacob Bell sat out much of the half? No. Was it a coincidence that we did it without Incognito? Yes. Whereas Bell has been a disappointment for a year and a half, Spagnuolo showed his mentoring ability early this season, turning Incognito from a blockhead into a blocker. Bell should join Bulger, McMichael and Alex Barron on the market this offseason.
D-line: B-
- Uh, Chris Long got a "sack". Hooray?
- Speaking of Long, why does he insist on hitting the "C" and running all the way around a pocket? Make a move at the B once in a while. It was how Leonard Little got his sack.
- LaJuan Ramsey had two tackled for a loss and Leger Douzable had one. Doesn't Spagnuolo deserve a top-talent DT? The Giants are already worried about their defense without Spagnuolo at the helm. We need to give him the kinds of tools he had in NY if we want to make the most out of his presence.
- And Chris Long got a sack. I know I said it already, but it's worth repeating.
LB: D+
- I thought this was the worst game by our LB crew. Stafford dumped off to his RBs for as many receptions as his WRs & TEs combined, and for good results. Kevin Smith was the Lions' leading receiver (thanks to the gelatin hands of Bryant Johnson). And some sloppy tackling early had me in hysterics.
- We need to draft a young, sack happy SLB. I appreciate the effort we're getting out of our OLBs in Larry Grant, David Vobora and Paris Lenon (who had a decent game against his former team), but I'd like to see some talent at the position. It would be a huge boost to our pass rush to have a better blitzing SLB.
- Teams are going to gameplan away from James Laurinaitis. He's so much better than anyone else in the front 7, OCs are going to isolate him and take him out of the play as much as possible. Linehan was somewhat successful in doing it yesterday, though Laurinaitis did end up with 7 tackles.
DBs: B-
- How did we only get 1 INT?
- BTW, I would like to forget that interception as much as I'm sure James Butler would. To see a rookie mistake made by one of your most seasoned veterans is, well, something Rams fans should be used to by now. But I'm not. For shame, James.
- Quincy Butler didn't play half bad yesterday. I'm still a bit confused at the revolving door we've had at the #2 CB spot that started with Jonathan Wade, then was handed to Bradley Fletcher whose injury gave way to Q. I'd just like to see some consistency because...
- Ron Bartell is getting burned way too often. A top CB could be our biggest need going into the 2011 draft if Bradley Fletcher doesn't come back 100% and make huge strides. Again, had Bryant Johnson not dipped his hands in melted butter before the game, he could have embarrassed Bartell on numerous occasions. Instead, he ended up with two catches for 43 yards...on eight targets. Bartell should send him a thank you card.
- What happened to Oshiomogho Atogwe's interception addiction? It's obvious coordinators implemented what I'm anticipating for Laurinaitis against Togs this year, but I would still like to see him getting after the deflections more often, especially yesterday. OJ's only got 1 INT this year, and that came in week 1. Until we force teams to play at him, they'll just keep going at Bartell.
ST: A-
- Donnie Jones is the best punter in the NFL.
- And yes, it was a great call by ST coach Tom McMahon on the fake. Fells was beyond wide open. There's not even a term for how open he was. US-Mexico border open? 7-Eleven open? I'll go with open like a frog in science class. Good call. If Spags gave it the nod, kudos to him as well.
- Someone needs to block better for Amendola. He took a beating yesterday.
So there it is. Not too much overreacting...because I was saving it for this:
Enjoy these two weeks. We're winners again.
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Agree on ALL accounts
The cut list… +1
Jared Allen of the Vikes had another amazing day yesterday. His combine was amazingly similar to Chris Long’s… although he was drafted in 04. The only difference really, is Allen has about 3" on Long.
So why is Allen a beast, and Long… I donno what to call him. Is it a matter of experience?
I’m not so sure… scroll down and see Allen’s career stats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Allen
At any rate, I’m not giving up on Long just yet… he has the physical ability, and once we get more talent on the D-Line, then we can fairly grade… not making excuses believe me… but I’m willing to be a bit more patient here.
Great recap and ratings 3k.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
he has the physical ability
I used to think that. Now I’m really not so sure. Maybe he has the potential. Maybe he had the ability at the NCAA level. What I’ve seen this year? I see a guy who seems to be trying and not succedding, but I don’t see a guy who is finding any physical advantage to exploit.
You have to have something better than the other guy, and you have to use it….maybe you’re stronger, or you’re quicker, or you’re more agile…..whatever. I would love to be able to say “Boy that Chris Long is in the backfield so fast, he’s sure to start getting sacks pretty soon”. Or “Chris Long swims out of blocks really well, he’ll start having an impact soon”.
That would show me he has the ability at this level. I’m just not seeing him play with a physical advantage.
I haven’t given up on the idea that he can get it through training. Same with our Wides, I think they can get there through hard work, and just as importantly, working on the right things. But right now, its fair to say they aren’t there yet.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
Good call coach
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
+1
Right on the money. The only positive you can hang your hat on with this guy is “motor.” Ultimately to be successful, a D-lineman has to have technique, too.
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Bartell
needs to be our #2. It is clear he can’t keep up with the #1 receivers in this league. Can you even imagine what C. Johnson would have done to him?
I think the biggest weakness of our LBs is their abilities to cover receivers/backs (yeah even James needs work here.)
Agree with all grades except TEs
Fells did show patience in catching a floating duck from Josh Brown (who already shows better skills throwing while rolling left than Bulger!), and broke a tackle for the TD. Additionally, the TEs in general helped out in the run-blocking. SJ’s touchdown romp came behind a TE overload to the right, creating a massive wall with Smith, McMichael and Fells sealing the outside. I’d upgrade them to a C, even with McMichael’s alligator arms and bad ribs/back/whatever it is this week.
And agreed on Bulger’s return to wimpy play. I think we can all agree that in the first four weeks, we saw some sort of goateed “Bizarro Bulger” who plays physical, stands tall in the pocket, waits for his receivers, and delivers strikes. There must have been some epic battle (slapfight) between the real Bulger and Bizarro Bulger during his injury recovery, won somehow by the real Bulger. I would assume that Bizarro Bulger has been banished to another dimension, never to return.
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Bear in mind
I combined the WR and TE for their grade
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
Bulger's grade would be a little higher
If McMichael could catch a pass that went through his hands in the endzone. It’s one thing to drop it, but it went through his hands and he didn’t even touch it.
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
True
It was a good throw, but that was a rare gem of a throw from Bulger. He was relatively accurate, but the grade for me is a bit of a overreaction based on his intangibles. He didn’t take the game over in any aspect. Even Stafford looked more determined; he just didn’t get any plays from his WRs.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Yea
I next offseason is going to be an interesting one. There is so much that we need at the top of the draft that is so hard to pick which one we need. QB is an obvious need, but I’m still not convinced we should take one first round. Suh is the exact same size as the Giants NT, Cofield, and I haven’t checked, but I’d guess more athletic than Cofield, so Spags would almost surely have an interest in him. Then that leaves another issue when we draft Suh, and as long as we’re talking about the cut list, where does that leave Adam Carriker? Do we try him out at DE, where he was originally drafted, do we put him in rotation with Suh and Ryan, or do we cut him? I think we should try him at DE, it is his original position, he is as fast as Long and he is 3" taller than Long, which, as VTRamsfan stated, could be a difference maker. That’s the route I pick.
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
Carriker, Carriker, Carriker...
…hmm…now that’s an interesting one. When you bring him up, I actually want the Rams to draft Suh even more than I did before. If we choose to move him to DE (Carriker), he would benefit (as well as Long/Laurinaitis). If we keep him at DT, we might have a damn good DT rotation with Suh, Ryan, and Carriker if he makes strides. I think we REALLY need an OLB, and on a more under the radar level, we NEED Bradley Fletcher to recover and make even more strides next year. God Bless him, and I feel so bad for what happened to him/Robinson (and the other guys on IR, but it always sucks more when it’s a rookie that was coming into his own). Let’s hope Carriker won’t be another Linehan stray, and Suh might help with making sure that doesn’t happen.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
Don't plan on Fletcher
as much as it sucks to say it, I wouldn’t pin too many hopes on Fletcher returning to form. He’ll likely miss part of the season next year, and when he does come back it’s tough to imagine him as the same player. I hope it doesn’t work out that way, but it’s best to plan for the worst.
The good news here is the Spagnuolo regime’s ability to find CB talent. Remember the collective “who is this guy” when the Rams drafted Fletcher?
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 2, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly...
…I know it was a horrible injury. I’m just hoping for the best because the kid looked promising. I just hope he gets his shot, I’m rooting for him. We probably need to address the CB spot in FA or the later rounds of the draft again. Hopefully we strike gold. I actually think this draft class is shaping up nicely, though I’m wondering where in the blue hell Darrell Scott is.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
Derrick Johnson will be a FA
He’s only 26, and despite not being used by the Chiefs this year, he has had good tackle numbers in the past (2 80+ seasons) and averages over 70 tackles a season at OLB. Coming off this season he’ll probably be very signable. He should be cheap since he’s only on pace to have around 20 tackles this entire season. He’s worth looking in to. For the other spot we could go with what we have (Vobora) or there are many other intriguing LB FA’s on the market.
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
He's definitely worth looking into
Great talent, has been on defenses that were nearly void of talent. He’d be a great pickup.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think Carriker is done
While we probably did him a disservice by moving him from his natural position, both his performance and durability has been poor. That 1st season shoulder injury was major and the recurring ankle problem is a bad omen. Recall, he couldn’t win the starting job in camp either. I don’t think he comes back…
Agree with your agreement
And also in the C grading for the TE’s. I like Fells’ development so far.
Can’t forget the TE’s helped the O-line with the blocking.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
SJax
tied with AP for 2nd in rushing yards
but i hate that Jamarcus has more passing yards than the Bulge
On Long
I remember hearing someone say before this season started that he relies too much on one move, and that when he learns more moves he will be able to beat O-linemen more often. I don’t remember who said it, it might have been a more experienced DE. If he could just learn to a good spin move back to the inside he would have a least twice as many sacks, maybe even 5 times as many. How often does running around the line even work?
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
Moves = agility
and a touch of quickness, not to mention coreography. These things can be developed….just wondering why its taking so long and we don’t see progress. I’m mostly blaming coachign with this because I think he’s got the right mindset to be successful.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
I want to see
Setterstrom start at LG. The Bye week doesn’t help, because Bell might be able to come back from (another?) concussion, but still. He came to play, and I like to see what he can do. Espicially when Incognito comes back, that would be a great starting block for a great young interior (JSmith looks like he’d make it a good foursome).
I believe in 2010
Agreed
The rest of this season needs to be thrown into full evaluation mode.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
DT
so to upgrade the DT spot, do you get a big guy to play with Carriker, let Carriker use his supposed gap shooting ability? Or do you get a more athletic kind of DT, like Carriker was supposed to be and find a big guy elsewhere?
There are so many needs for the Rams I think the conversation from here on out centers on which ones are the most important to address first…and how? They obviously got their OL in order this year, still need a RT for ‘10. Now it’s playmakers on offense, DL and CB as the primary needs.
As much as I lean toward taking a QB of the future in the draft, the guy’s destined to fail with out current crop of WRs. Chicken/egg.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 AM CST reply actions
You've already got one DT in Clifton Ryan who's more than adequate at the position.
So, you only really need to replace Carriker.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
What about Gibson?
And we have to see what LaJuan Ramsey and Douzable have this season as possible backups, no?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Who is Gibson?
Other than that, I agree about Ramsey and Douzable, although my expectations aren’t exactly high for either of them to step into the starters role and be a difference maker. I’d love for it to happen, but I won’t get my hopes up.
Good thing we’ve got half a season to find out.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
?
Gary Gibson? He had a very good season going in Carriker’s absence.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think Gary Gibson is our solution for anything.
He played well, but he is not good enough to be an NFL starter. We should let him go if we draft Suh or keep him in rotation with whoever we decide to keep at DT
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
but the DL
still struggled with those guys in the lineup.
Which makes me wonder about Clifton Ryan. Is he a good starter who needs a true top tier DT next to him? Is he just a solid guy for a DT rotation?
He seems miscast as a NT in this defense.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 2, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Well I would put it like this
I really liked what I saw from Gibson, moreso than what I’ve seen from Ryan thus far. If anything, those two look like our #2 and 3 DTs in some order. I’d love to draft Suh, but I worry about a Chris Long-Leonard Little duo being rolled out for 2010.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Little
I’m not counting on Little for ’10
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 2, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Which lives a GAPING hole at DE
Without Little, we have Long, Adeyanju and Hall at the end. There are some solid DE options in round 2 and 3 if we choose to go that route.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
so DE more of a need than DT?
If Little goes, i’d say so. This is a tough call. We need talent up there BADLY.
and that brings it back to the if we add a DE to replace LL, are we good enough in the middle with Carriker and Ryan and Gibson? Carriker has actually been ok against the run, I always thought, but he has trouble living up to that pass rusher hype that followed his lofty draft status
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 2, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
We need to scout free agency...
…badly. I actually trust Devaney in the FA market thus far. BROWN is the obvious poster boy for this sentiment, but Butler has been solid (though after that shameful play it might not be the best week to say that). Amendola has mostly solved our kick return woes (if he’s still alive that is). Laurent Robinson looked prime for awesome (I know he wasn’t a FA but it feels like he was). Hopefully Gibson can do more in the coming weeks. This bye might be golden for him.
The bottom line is, we can’t fill all these holes in the draft. Hopefully Devaney keeps finding these little gems.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
primed*
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
free agency should be interesting this year
esp. w/ CBA nonsense
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 2, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Butler's play
He was just trying to hard.
You get desperate for a win, and find yourself in a winnable game, and being a veteran he’s recognizes the need for someone to actually make plays……I think maybe if we had a comfortable lead (or a couple of W’s) he might not do the same thing.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
Oh yeah.
I forgot about him. Once we got the WR Gibson, he’s the only one I could think of.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
They say a picture
is worth a thousand words, well that picture with SJax is worth one to me:
“PHENOMENAL” OR “AMAZING” ok those are two words!
OMG GUYS LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d813e3e04/Rams-Defense-Highlight-WK-08-vs-Lions-2009
3k, I think we need to cue another “We Are the Champions” in honor of this amazing play.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
I'm glad you found the clip
because it illustrates what I was saying about Chris Long above, going to the outside no matter what. Look how deep he goes and how far around he has to come. Unbelievably self-defeating pursuit that somehow resulted in his first sack.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yup...
…either our coverage was good or Stafford had a brain fart because he held on to that thing FOREVER.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
Long must have run 20 yards in a circle before getting to the QB
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
he must be so tired during games
only if someone told him a strait line is the quickest way to get to a quarterback, no funny business. It almost looks like he’s trying to spell his initials with his pass rush the occasional “C” and “L”
by keeperskillz24 on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
only if someone told him
You’re saying his problem is flawed coaching?
I’m starting to think that. I don’t think the guy is uncoachable or stupid. I think he’s not getting trained properly.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
Are you implementing Spags or someone else?
Because no one else that Spags has coached has run in circles.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Someone Else
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
I asked my question before I read your comments in the other thread.
my bad.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Well you can't
read every word in a live blog before you speak — not your bad at all!
But I’m glad you found my remarks despite the link to the top of the page. I meant to link to my story thats currently at the bottom, so you wouldn’t have to read the whole comments section. Sorry bout that, and kudos to you for even getting to that obscure little FanShot!
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
Yeah. I read it before you posted the link.
And I read everything here, Coach. I thought you knew that by now…
;-)
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I absolutely DO know you read every word, and I respect your grasp of it all
I guess I just find myself making comments and then like 1 minute later finding something pertinent was written in another thread that I wish I’d read before opening my mouth…and I do that all the time.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Nov 2, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
teach him moves to go inside on a T
and not always all the way around the outside
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
Shouldn't that
have been done by now? He’s got 24 games of NFL experience and his college career behind him. You would think some inside moves would have been included in his repertoire at this point.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2009 6:29 AM CST up reply actions
You would think. But we don't know what his coach is telling him.
There’s a reason he’s doing it. We can only speculate on what that reason is. Its complicated. It involves not just a strategy of attack but the ability to carry out that strategy.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
And don't forget
being able to do it in colleeg doesn’t mean you can do it in the NFL.
Yes, its all hard to believe. You assume a 2nd rounder shows up being NFL ready, at least to soem degree.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Nov 3, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he was handled
Can’t blame the OT.
That’s creating your own luck because if he would’ve let up he wouldn’t have been there, but that’s all it was.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
So what exactly are we saying
that Long has basically, ONE move?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
That's what I'm thinking
His move or moves if he has them only have one result… Lots of time for the QB. Even on his one sack, and I timed it with a stopwatch from the replay, 5.5 seconds from the snap to when he touches the QB. That is way too long. 5.5 seconds
The 53 as one have become the 53 that won.
He certainly hasn't
shown us much more
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 2, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Its possible
I’m just speculating, but I guess it’s possible that he lacks the ability to make any other moves work. Not that the “run out” has worked, but maybe the other ones are worse.
To run a tackle out you better extremely quick on the first step. You win that move in the first split second by bursting by him. I know for sure he hasn’t developed that kind of quickness because I studied him in pre-season and was worried about exactly this ability.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Nov 3, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
A smaller guy wins that way I mean
A big brute can drive him back without needing to burst by. But any casual observer can see Long isn’t the big brute compared to his opponent.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Nov 3, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
LOL & wouldn't you know it
Brett Favre’s face all over the screen gotta love it
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Content with Fells + Bajema
I think Daniel Fells is going to be something good, and Bajema shows some promise. I would be ecstatic if they could stay for the long-term.
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