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I need a quarterback.

My post earlier this week asking whether or not Redskins QB and free agent-to-be Jason Campbell would be a good fit for the St. Louis Rams, who are bound to be looking for a QB next season, didn't elicit much positive reaction from the fan community. Understandably so. One of the questions I asked about Campbell going forward was how his high sack rate, 9.9% this season, would impact him going forward. Over at Football Outsiders, Bill Barnwell, picked up my question and found pretty encouraging results. Check it out:

The resulting list includes a few scrubs (David Carr, Tim Couch) and a LOT of good quarterbacks.

It's a list that Campbell's numbers, so far this year, belong in. He has a 66.2 completion percentage, higher than any of the quarterbacks on the list, while his 7.36 yards per attempt place him eighth out of 18. If you prefer to use p-f-r's Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt, he ranks ninth. (On the other hand, his adjusted yards per attempt, which doesn't include the effects of sacks, would be 15th.)

Here is the list. Impressive to say the least. Theisman, Phil Simms, Elway, Moon, etc. Does it mean that Campbell is ready for the Hall of Fame? Absolutely not. It does indicate that he has skills and could be a solid option for a team that could surround him with the tools to succeed and the right motivational/coaching environment. Here's Barnwell's final statement from the post:

Looking at comparable seasons suggests that Campbell's performance this year is a positive indicator of his ability to play a successful quarterback going forward, perception be damned.

The Rams have lots of needs on their roster, to restate the obvious. One advantage of pickup like Campbell would be that it allows the Rams to compete a little faster. Take away the need to draft a QB in the first round right away. Use that high pick for a WR or DL, and pick up the other position in the second round. With talent at WR and a competent QB finally on the roster with Steven Jackson and a budding offensive line, the Rams instantly have the best offense we've seen since 2006, at least. On the other side of the ball, they can get a cornerstone DL in the first round or a guy in the second round that should instantly offer an upgrade over the current talent along the line. Remember too, that Spagnuolo's style has been taking mid-round guys and molding them, so don't be surprised is the Rams don't get help somewhere in the second round or later or even among the second tier group of free agents, i.e. not the $100 million contract guys. Same approach for the OLB spots. Figure out someway to beef up the CB spot, and you should have a very young, competitive defense. Then taking a QB can come a couple years down the road, holding the clipboard for Campbell for a season. That approach might have the Rams competing a little sooner, especially in the NFC West.

I know Campbell's not a marquee option, but it's definitely an option to consider. Of course, there's always Marc Bulger...

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He never seemed that horrible to me

In a good system he would fit.

He’s worth looking at, at the very least.

I believe in 2010

by ram_rod on Nov 11, 2009 11:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Problem is..

our system isn’t that good… next year? Maybe. Still not sold on Campbell, but would take him over Bulger… less money, and more mobile.

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by VTramsFan on Nov 11, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

campbell

looks like one of those guys who needs a fresh start and could be gotten at his lowest value this offseason.

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by jroman on Nov 11, 2009 11:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The JC Project

Boy Van, you’re really trying to sell this Jason Campbell
Idea……
Never gave him much thought other than being loser on a losing team. But after looking at the stats, you may have something there. I would be VERY concerned about the number of hits he’s taken. And not for durability sake. But is he “scared”? I really haven’t had a chance to watch him this year. And I would hate the thought of buying another Bulger. If he looks like he’s afraid,(like Marc), then I vote we stay away from the guy and draft Bradford #1 and let Boller play out his rookie year.

by ZamRam on Nov 11, 2009 12:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

This just allows us to

rebuild alot faster if we can get a top Defensive lineman and a WR to go along with that
we could be back in the thick of it, but what i dont understand is why dont we play Null he showed alot of poise in the pocket and has a better arm than Bulger. maybe they are bringing him along slowly.

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by ray c on Nov 11, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The Jason Campbell option means a dedication to "more of the same."

The more I look at the “hybrid west coast offense” that teams like the Rams, Redskins, Eagles and Seahawks run, the more I think it’s seriously flawed in terms of generating point-scoring opportunities. By design, it’s good at chewing up clock and generating long drives. But whether by design or by bad luck, it seems (with the exception of recent Eagles performances) to be really poor in the red zone.

The positive of bringing Campbell is that he’s already fluent in this kind of system. And his high completion percentage suggests that he’s competent at making his reads and finding open guys. The negative is that this system magnifies any mistakes that the quarterbacks make, since it’s so difficult to make up big chunks of yardage, or score points quickly.

I recognize that there is a “fresh start” argument to be made, but I wonder whether this Rams offense would represent that kind of fresh start.

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by taiko on Nov 11, 2009 2:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I know we are always speculating about if the Rams are going to draft a nice new fresh and shiny QB this offseason, but lets think about this.Didn’t they just draft this kid Null, and there is no way he is any worse then Boller or Bulger so why don’t they let him get some playing time so that way we know if a QB is really even needed.Worse things that can happen are that he sucks as bad as the other 2 stooges or worse he is better but ends up hurt before he can mature. So i say try him out in some real game time settings, and not whenwe are losing by 24 in the 4th I mean in some meaningfull situations and hell if he looks promising then it makes even more sense to bring in a Cambell who can mentor the kid and who will only be around on a short contract so the kid can take over. What do you all think????

by peteyweestro on Nov 11, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They just draft this kid Null, and there is no way he is any worse then Boller or Bulger

Not sure about that. I think as of right now he’s probably not close to Bulger’s ability or he’d already be the QB2. I do completely agree that they need to play that pick out a little before the offseason comes. I hope they at least partly answer “the Null question” before deciding to draft another QB the very next time out.

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by CoachConnors on Nov 11, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably still

learning the offense a bit, but you’d think he’s gotten use to the NFL speed. I have to believe that Null will get a shot before the end of the season. Not just the last game either, not much evaluation as compared to say 3 games.

by RamsFan1979 on Nov 12, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A few scrubs?

        How many bad QBs are in that list, short or long term? I can’t believe it’s only a few scrubs.

by dbcouver on Nov 12, 2009 1:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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