A big fat contract-revisited
I'm fully shocked that so many of you continue to be on the Bulger fan wagon. I understand remaining committed to a player that has shown success, like the Rams didn't do with Kurt Warner, however Bulger has never been a real winner. He was able to ride the greatest show on turf for a few year or so, however he has done nothing since. His ability to lead and his desire to not lose, isn't there. Let him go while we can actually recoup some of his salary. Spag is retooling the defense, now it's time to retool the offense as well. Jackson will never be as effective as Brian Westbrook (like the offense is designed) if nobody in the league respects the quarterback leading that team. A big fat contract is what was signed and squat is what we've gotten in return. Kind of like Bernie Maloff, we keep investing in him and he keeps taking from us. For those of you that think I'm a rookie here, your nut's. I've been following the Rams for 40 years and was a season tik. holder in LA for many years. Getting something for Bulger now is a lot better than getting nothing later.
RamFan, Joel
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Poison Pill contract
SJ39s contract was incentive filled. Meaning he only gets paid so much if he performs so well. I cannot remember the exact details, but I recall it voids out a couple of years if he does not his benchmarks.
by 81 Witness on Oct 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I considered deleting this Fan Post
but since it was much more coherent and had a bit of a point, I’m leaving it and deleting the other.
First, you are a rookie here. No one cares how long you’ve been a Ram fan. You are new to TST and there are certain things that have happened here before you showed up.
Like….for example…….all of us becoming fully aware how much Marc Bulger is being paid and for how long. We all know. But thanks for bringing it up again as if it has anything to do with anything and actually provides something constructive to the discussion.
See….we’re miles past this. You just brought us back a couple of years but seem peeved no one wants to jump back on with you. We’re aware of it and there are tons of stories, Fan Posts and comments that discuss what realistically can be done with the contract and the player.
I suggest you take the time to do a little research before you start calling us a bunch of “Bulger fan(?) wagon(ers)”.
Which brings me to my 2nd point.
There are two types of people here. People who can’t stand Marc Bulger and people who are on board for giving him a shot at regaining something (success? trade value?) since it made horrible business sense to trade or release him this year.
Something you might not know, but the Rams would actually save money by cutting him this offseason as opposed to now or during the past offseason which would have cost the team millions against the cap.
I bet you could have read that here if you’d have just looked for it. Btw, the search function on SBN blogs is pretty useful.
Finally, this is not your personal sounding board. We encourage opinions here as long as you can back up your stance and you do it in a manner which is useful.
We also get a lot of really good FanPosts here and when you decide to create one every other day (which looks like the same frequency with which you visit the blog) to either talk about the same thing or get mad because you don’t like the responses to your first one, then you end up pushing good Fan Posts with good discussions off the front page.
So, take this however you want. This isn’t the P-D forums where pretty much anything goes. You’re more than welcome here, but save the lectures on topics we’ve covered ad nauseum for over a year.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 22, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
If I could apply a sticky
this’d be a place to use it. Thanks Tackle Box!
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Oct 23, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what exactly does that "sticky" statement mean?
by edpjr on Oct 23, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's referring to the stltoday.com forums i do believe
if a topic is “sticky” it stays at the top of the page no matter what.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 23, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a yellow piece of paper
that helps you to remember, and then take it off and recycle it.
“come on Rams secondary, let’s keep it close!
"Time For Action, Fire It Up!"
by moy on Oct 23, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are too many good posts deleted already on TST
We seem to have a shrinking group of posters and commenters split about 50/50 in opinion – not much new blood. The fact are: very few people giva crap about the winless STL Rams. Pretty soon the TST wizards with the awesome power to delete things on this website are gonna find they don’t have anything left to delete.
by edpjr on Oct 22, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop already.
I’ve deleted 3 Fan Posts.
One was an All-Caps vomit fest that did absolutely nothing. The second was yours that was bitching about me deleting the All-Caps vomit fest. The third is the prequel to this one.
Stop being so damn dramatic.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 22, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should try deleting some of your own stuff, or
the crap that 2/3’s of the TST contributors ignore from that high school kid in STL who predicts the Rams will win every week, and then has an excuse when they don’t…
by edpjr on Oct 23, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should try being intelligent and arguing a point
it greatly helps a discussion. instead of name calling and chest beating, refuting points and having discussion works well.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 23, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll get on it right away!!!
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 23, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess what?
we’re weeding out people and fanposts that add nothing to the discussion. anybody in the entire world can go on a rant about how pissed they are about the rams, their play this season, past drafts, the coaching, etc but it takes a little bit of knowledge to actually have intelligent discussion.
look, if we wanted to know how bad the rams sucked, we’d ask. frankly, i think the play of the team speaks for itself. we know the rams have gaping holes and are possibly the worst team in the nfl. we know they have misfired on several draft picks of late. but to dwell on those things is simply silly. we all know the team sucks, and we don’t need to be constantly reminded of it with rants about the same thing over and over that have little basis in intelligent thinking and all the basis in chest-beating, pissed off football fans.
instead, we discuss how the team is getting better in certain aspects of the game. we discuss what failed in the game and what needs to get better. but what we don’t do is beat our chests over and over and bring up topics that aren’t relevant to today’s rams. you can bitch and moan all you want about draft picks and how the team played like shit, but back it up with facts and intelligent thoughts about how it can get better. that’s all we try to accomplish.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 23, 2009 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I am not sure why anyone would be upset with his take or for that matter a new oppinion ot the mix. It would seem to better for anyone ot enhance their views from someone who has been a fan for 40 years and just reflecting his oppinion, but who know and who cares.
by No1Betta on Oct 23, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not a new opinion.
And what does 40 years have to do with anything?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 24, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 40 years of fanhood...
…sometimes one learns a thing or two about football. Maybe you’ll understand in a few decades.
by edpjr on Oct 24, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Age ≠ Intelligence
Sorry to disappoint.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 24, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it doesn't...
…but years of experience do help increase knowledge and wisdom. Also, being able to earn a BS degree in Nuclear Engineering, acquire a professional engineering license, and practice successfully for over 25 years indicates the probability of mild intellect. What do you do for a living…?
by edpjr on Oct 24, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow that's impressive!
it sure doesn’t show though…
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does being a Nuclear engineer have to do with football?
My IQ says I’m a genius so I must be a genius with everything having to do with football as well.
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by Carneros on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fyi. I was making a rebuttal to Tackle-Mouth
I believe one needs some smarts and experience to know anything about football. One without the other is not enough. That’s why some tremendous football stars fail miserably as coaches. Although I too have scored very high on IQ tests before, I doubt their value and significance, unless one wants to join Mensa. It’s real accomplishments that count. Some of the biggest slugs I’ve known were supposedly very intelligent, but they just couldn’t quite finish their education, get motivated, or succeed at anything. On the other hand, some guys with an IQ around 100-110, that had a little “vision,” have been wildly successful.
by edpjr on Oct 24, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
we’re supposed to all bow down to you because your IQ is in the low 100s , you work hard, and you’re over the age of 50 (therefore obviously knowing more about football than all of us)?
now it all makes sense…………………..
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 24, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
adding to stlcardinals fang, so...
because we are not old enough to have become accomplished engineers, we cannot know as much about football as you?
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by Carneros on Oct 24, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh heck no. Read my post again...
“On the other hand, some guys with an IQ around 100-110, that had a little "vision," have been wildly successful.” But for what it’s worth, let me correct that my last IQ test was actually more like a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady’s QB rating. :-)
by edpjr on Oct 24, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the former head coach of the St. Louis Rams and New Orleans Saints
and current head coach of the Florida Tuskers. I thought we’ve been over this….
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 24, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake - Mr. Haslett. Please don't get mad. I know you're a tough guy!
And, congrats on beating California the other night!
by edpjr on Oct 24, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough guy....heh.....
but all kidding aside, I’m a teacher.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 24, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I've been around for far less than 40 years
and I probably know as much or more than the 40 year fans here
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by Carneros on Oct 24, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I've read a lot of your posts and respectfully disagree...
by edpjr on Oct 24, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
I have not really ever seen you say anything but about how how bad the Rams are in a pessimistic, not looking at the future at all kind of way.
Everyone has their opinions and aren’t going to change their opinions easily, and I for the most part, disagree with your opinions, so I can see how you think I don’t know much about football because my viewpoints are usually different than yours.
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by Carneros on Oct 24, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone think
with some healthy receivers any a new guy no defense knows yet we might finally open up the playbook and get SJax a chance to run?
by johnniewarthawg on Oct 24, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got tired
of the brow beating thought I’d ask a football question
by johnniewarthawg on Oct 24, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't understand the question
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by Carneros on Oct 24, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
With Avery back and supposedly healthy and a new healthy receiver that no defense has seen to this point I wonder If the OC might try to throw a little more downfield to loosen up the 9 in the box defenses it seens like were trying to run against. I realize
Bulger hasn’t had much time with him but if the system languge is so much the same
maybe we could suprise the Colts early with some downfield throws early to back ’em up
by johnniewarthawg on Oct 24, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you got a high enough IQ to ask these questions?
yes, i do think The Rams have to pressure the DBs w/ the WR & the TE to open the game up for SJax, but what they really need to do is control the ball and chew up the clock. that is the only way they can keep the game close.
"Time For Action, Fire It Up!"
by moy on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
Theirs a lot of great players who know alot about football that have Low IQ’s and are criminals and thugs off the street. I consider my self neither intelligent or knows a lot about football i just enjoy watching and (used to) playing.
by keeperskillz24 on Oct 27, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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