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Rams should pass on Martz

So there's something to those Mike Martz back to the Rams as the offensive coordinator rumors after all.This "Team of Rivals" thing is starting to get out of control.

Just remember, it sounds great until it doesn't work.

Martz has mind for the offensive side of the game, and he'll be a fine coordinator somewhere, for a team with the right circumstances. But remember all those funky personnel moves he had a hand in? And, sure, he may have had a good repore with QB Marc Bulger, but in Mad Mike's offense Bulger (and Warner before him) were sacked constantly. The Rams allowed 40 or more sacks every year under Martz as head coach, consistently among the highest total for sacks allowed in the league. Watching Bulger play lately should have made the results of that fairly obvious.

Trust me. You we don't want Martz back as offensive coordinator. Putting an old mask on isn't the same thing as putting a new face on a franchise - something the Rams MUST accomplish this offseason.Yet another reason to pass on Haslett.

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If it comes down to

Haslett and Martz or neither, I’ll take neither. Just like firing Linehan and Zygmunt, this franchise needs a departure from it’s recent past, and Martz is too much a part of it.

Jay Zygmunt, now that you are going to fire yourself...have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

by 3k on Jan 9, 2009 11:04 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I’m shocked to see the vote so close (15 no – 11 yes as of this post)

Why anyone would want to see someone who was integral to the deterioration of this franchise return is a mystery to me.

by hex706f726368 on Jan 9, 2009 11:14 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll say one thing about Mike Martz.

The last two teams he has coached (Rams, Lions) have gone completely into the shitter once he was fired. I know the Rams were struggling under Martz near the end, but they weren’t this bad. And the Lions won NOTHING last year. Now we’ll see how the 49 fare without him (God I hope they hire Scott Linehan…)

Don’t take this as an endorsement of Mike Martz. I did always like him and I predicted a rapid failure with the next coach (unfortunately, it wasn’t here a TST since we didn’t exist at the time so you’re just gonna have to take my word on it). Martz wasn’t the problem here and I think we’ve all finally seen who it was.

Anyway, I’ve always felt Martz got unfair treatment every he’s been, but teams always perform better under him than they did before and after his tenure.

Is he a fit for the Rams? Probably not. I doubt he could re-invent himself into a power offense guy. But, if there’s anyone who wouldn’t take his shit, Haslett would definitely be that guy.

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by Tackle Box on Jan 9, 2009 12:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree (kinda)

Martz has a great offensive mind, and looking at how the team has performed under Linehan I would say the reason they were competitive was because of the way he ran the offense. I will be honest, I was never a supporter of Martz as head coach. I still believe he made a lot of mistakes that fall on the head coach and contributed to loses. So is it a wash? Yes, do the Rams need someone over a wash, I think so. Hence my desire for them to get an experienced head coach that knows how to effectively manage the whole.

by sccardsfan on Jan 9, 2009 12:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But he's not being considered as the head coach.

He’s being considered as a coordinator.

Nevertheless, I do agree with what you say about Martz as the HC. I never thought he was cut out to be a HC, but you can’t fault a guy for wanting the challenge.

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by Tackle Box on Jan 9, 2009 12:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO!

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by gorams77 on Jan 9, 2009 1:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Jay Zygmunt, now that you are going to fire yourself...have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

by 3k on Jan 9, 2009 2:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t understand why he would come back to a place where he was once the head coach, (and had taken the team to the Super Bowl) as a hired hand, essentially, working for somebody else…the only way I could see that is if he is completely unemployable anywhere else, which may not be far from the truth getting canned from two places in two years.

I would be shocked if he came back and I’m not sure it would do much good…the talent level has fallen off quite a bit since we last saw him in the Ed.

by tbell61 on Jan 9, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No on Martz

I forget who said it this week, but someone on here made the a really salient point: “The most important thing the Rams can do is get everyone in the front office pulling in the same direction.”

There’s no doubt that Martz is talented, and that his offenses here were among the best in Rams history. But there’s a reason he’s headed to his fourth organization in as many years — he simply doesn’t play well with others. I just don’t see a guy like this modifying his schemes or his desires to fit what the head coach, or the GM, think is best for the team. If it’s his way or the highway, let him continue on down the highway.

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by taiko on Jan 9, 2009 3:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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