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A conundrum of a palindrome, making the switch from 4-3 to 3-4

With, ahem, great success the Rams have been running a 4-3 defense for sometime. One of the burning questions floating around the Rams hunt for head coach is the making the switch to a 3-4, since a number of the candidates embrace that system. Should a new coach come in and push for the 3-4 base defense I started wonder if the Rams make such a switch in a single season?

Under Haslett, during his two and quarter seasons as the Rams defensive coordinator, the Rams used a blitz-heavy 4-3 with press coverage in the backfield. We all know the results; the Rams have been among the league's worst defenses against both the pass and run for the last three years, setting a new franchise record for rushing yards allowed this season. Actually, according to DVOA, you have to go all the way back to 2003 before you can find a Rams defensive unit above the league's bottom quartile. The team's personnel problems are obvious, and have been for some time. And it's the personnel on the roster, more specifically, the personnel worthy of keeping on the roster that make me wonder about the switch to a 3-4 defense.

Because of their struggles and injuries over the last two years, the Rams did finally start to use some different looks on defense. One of those looks included a version of the 3-4 defense, featuring LB Will Witherspoon in the hybrid rush end role. That's how he ended up leading the team in sacks, with 7, in the 2007 season. So what are we looking at to make the switch?

But Witherspoon, mighty as he is, doesn't perfectly fit the profile for that role in 3-4 defense, and the Rams linebacking corps would need a major overhaul to run the 3-4 system. Not that it doesn't need an overhaul anyway, but the Rams have decent LBs for a 4-3 system, just sorely lacking a big presence in the middle, where an out of place Witherspoon has been filling in. The biggest Rams LB currently on the roster is Culberson, who tips the scales at 240 lbs. To improve their current 4-3 defense, the Rams need a true blue MLB, while the switch to a 3-4 would require even more changes among the linebackers.

One possibility is moving DEs Leonard Little and Chris Long to the rushing end/LB spots in a 3-4. For Long, the transition might not be all that difficult; he played in a much similar system in college. For Little, whose aging rapidly, the transition is much more of an unknown.

Up front, the '3' in the '3-4,' the Rams would have to add a big guy at NT - something they need to do anyway - to stuff the run and draw double teams. Carriker would fit as an end in the 3-4 scheme and James Hall, 32, might work on the other side. Adeyanju, who certainly earned his place with the Rams, might be a little smallish for the role.

Of course the Rams flip the palindrome and make the switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 ahead of the 2009 season but in doing so they'd add even more needs to an already lengthy spring shopping list while pushing aside some perfectly good role players. It's not impossible, but easing into the transition over two seasons might be the more effective way to make the switch.

One more note. I'm not a 3-4 zealot. There are plenty of teams still in the hunt for the title run a 4-3, including the still champion NY Giants and their defensive coordinator/head coaching candidate Steve Spagnuolo. To me, the players you have on the field and their leaders/coaches have a much bigger impact, and that's what the Rams have to address before starting any debate about schemes.

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Do you prefer the 3-4 to the 4-3?
Yes
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No
34 votes
Doesn't matter to me, jsut stop somebody for a change
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It ain't the scheme, it's the personnel

I’m not a big fan of the 3-4 over the 4-3 in most cases, and especially in the Rams case I just don’t see why it would make sense whatsoever from a personnel standpoint. This team sucks enough as is — trying to make them learn an entirely new scheme for no real reason seems a bit absurd. Fitting a square peg in a round hole.

by Doughboy RAM on Jan 8, 2009 4:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

a look at the division

The first goal for the Rams should be improving their division standing. Going 0-6 against this crowd is absolutely shameful. And looking at the three opponents we’ll be up against, all three run some version of the West Coast offense … although Mike Singletary will probably be changing that in SF.

One of the benefits of the 3-4 appears to be a greater ability to disguise blitzes, at least the way Pittsburgh runs it. You figure that even with 3 down linemen, you are always going to rush at least four, which forces the quarterback and offenisve line into a guessing game about where the fourth or fifth man is coming from. It’s been notably disruptive against vertical passing games, most famously against the Colts, who have real problems against it. I’d wager that the Cardinals have similar problems.

But one of the requirements of the 3-4 is a lot of speed and athleticism among the edge LBs, since they are the ones who most often have to drop into coverage against running backs and receivers in the short middle. I don’t think Little or Long are very good options for this role. Fortunately there are no Brian Westbrooks in the division, so in the short term it might not hurt us that much.

Ultimately, I don’t think Little fits the profile of a 3-4 team very well. Best case for him, he stays in a 4-3 and is used the same way Atlanta used John Abraham, switching him in and out of the lineup on almost a play-by-play basis to keep him fresh and effective.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Jan 8, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The 4-3 relies on strength up the middle.

The DTs, the MLB, and the SS have to be very good to make that defense really tough to play against. The problem is those happen to be the weakest positions on this football team since Mr. Zygmunt decided that London Fletcher, Brian Young, and Jeff Zgonina were too expensive to keep. The SS got a shot in the arm for a while with Archuleta, but they really haven’t had anything there since he started falling apart. Jamie Duncan was awful, and Will Witherspoon is out of position (although our current interim head coach disagrees). We’ve been rotating DTs from year to year damn near since Farr retired. Just about the time that Pickett and Lewis started to show something, BOOM, they were outta here.

If they can find a solid MLB, a solid SS, and a run-stuffing DT, then the defense should start to turn around. Little has to be gone pretty soon. He is living off of past reputation at this point (ala Bulger, Holt). I don’t think Long is going to be a sack-master on the other side, so we need a pass-rushing DE. Oh, and we could use CB. Other than that, I’m pretty sure we’re OK on that side of the ball (shrug, sigh).

Fortunately, they really only need a C, T, TE, and 2nd RB on the other side of the ball. Oh, this isn’t sounding good, is it?

by etp_stl on Jan 8, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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