Rams fans make their voices heard
by VanRam on Sep 8, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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If there was any hidden nugget of gold to be found somewhere in ruined weekend for Rams fans, look no further than right here at Turf Show Times. Enthusiastic fans poured out, a nascent community of fans rallied by their disappointment channeled their frustration into some of the most entertaining reading of the football season, at the expense of the team they came to root for.
The comments set records, numerically and comedically. This may look like an easy post, but it would be a real shame we didn't share the best of the best to casual readers and everyone else guaging the state of professional football in St. Louis. On with the show.
On the game's Xs & Os
From WestCoastBuc
And if anybody who isn't watching the game wants to know
if this is as bad as the score makes it look, the answer is no – it is worse. The Rams have actually been pretty lucky on several plays. Bulger threw at least 4 balls that easily could have been intercepted and one of them would have been returned for a TD. Samuels had the ball in his hands and just dropped it.
Bulger’s fumble bounced right back into his lap.
No pressure at all on McNab, while the Ram offensive line has no answer at all for the Eagles blitzes. I think we have a shot this year at the first overall pick in the draft instead of having to settle for #2.
That doesn't even get to the play of the secondary. From Tackle Box:
-Ron Bartell offends my football senses.
-Tye Hill and Fakhir Brown aren’t much better.
Ouch. And this one from ViperLjs:
The run game was nullified also, but that was mostly due to the fact that the secondary made everyone look like Usain Bolt.
And it gets better from there. After the jump, Linehan,
The first call for Linehan's head came prior to the start of the second half. Here's WestCoastBuc:
Is it too early to call for Linehan's head
It got better from there, and calls for accountability merged with predictions. From empire:
It starts at the top. Head Coach. Should have been cut loose mid season last year. This team hasn’t been prepared to play a complete game of football during his entire tenure.
Like pet owners that look like their pets, a team takes on the personality of it’s coach. Timid soft, lackadaisical (Seriously Torry, off field penalty on the opening drive.. wtf).
Long time TSTer Option27 summed it up thusly:
I would have to think that maybe a couple more embarrassing losses for the Rams would mean an earlier firing of Linehan?
The faster we get of this guy, the sooner this mess can be averted.
Downing Rules on Holt's disappearance and other options:
If he can still run let’s put him on defense. This is an embarrassment. 90 yd TD pass with under a minute left.
Finally, some advice from from long time reader stlouiscardinalsfang:
i don’t even want to try and breakdown this game because it will make me even more mad over it. i’m just going to pretend this didn’t happen, not read any rams coverage all week, and put my shirt on again next sunday and start it all over again.
A great week for comments. that said, please remember to be civil to each other and appropriate.
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i was just starting to think that TST has probably gotten more hits in the last 36 hours than it ever has before. it’s sad how such a pathetic performance brought out the best (and most numerous) comments.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 8, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no
the most traffic came when people were excited about getting Steven Jackson signed and back to camp. if the Rams don’t improve there won’t be a fan base left anywhere.
by VanRam on Sep 8, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the truth
well at least it set records for comments, which is the most visible sign of readership and traffic (at least for us underprivleged folk).
either way, if the rams don’t show drastic improvement next week, i shudder to think what will happen to the fans.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 8, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, so that's why you kept urging people to sign up
Didn’t know you could see the amount of traffic.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can see it, too...
by clicking “sitemeter” logo at the bottom of the page.
by Downing Rules on Sep 8, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
learn something new every day.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF THEY DONT FIRE LINNEHAN AFTER THIS ?????
If they dont fire Linnehan after this , the Rams will lose every fan they have left, He has to go now, not in two or three weeks, they will not only lose this season if they keep than high school coach ,but surely every fan in the country will not even watch this team on tv never mind go pay to see them`, LINNEHAN MUST GO NOW he has done more damage to this team then ever before, every move he made every player he traded or cut and every player that he brought to this team has been a bad move, the super bowl team that Dick Vermele bilt has be single handedly destroed by LINNEHAN , LINNEHAN YOU SUCK AND YOUR DAYS ARE OVER IN ST.
by james535 on Sep 8, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AND TAKE YOUR BUDDYS WITH YOU ASSHOLE
NO FURTHER COMENT IS NEEDED
by james535 on Sep 8, 2008 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dude
we get the your point. you’ve only made it about seven different times.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 8, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love his spelling of Linehan...
I thought it was because he was hammered while typing yesterday…maybe he’s continued the drinking fest overnight until this afternoon?
james, do you follow the mantra, “AVOID HANGOVERS, STAY DRUNK?”
Sorry, man, just laughing a bit at your seemingly excessive anger. It is a game, after all.
We could be the Lions… at least the Rams have won more than one playoff game (and even a Super Bowl) in the last four scores and seven years.
by Downing Rules on Sep 8, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out his profile
he’s been like this for a while. And the spelling seems to get worse by the day.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sunday Ticket
Since getting FIoS, we suspend out directv service for 6 months and get it running for ST.
Took me 3 calls to them before I had it working (They don’t post the new channels until Saturday night). The second time, the person transferred me to a recorded message in spanish because she couldn’t answer my question.
I wasn’t able to see the pregame shows as in years past, so I didn’t think it was set up on the account properly. Oh no, they don’t do that anymore, she said. In addition, the lower summary channels that used to show scores are now superfan only. So I just wanted her to confirm there was no way I would know if it was on the account and working until 1pm when the game starts.
Pretty sure I was correct and it wasn’t set up right.
Anyone else have problems with Directv?
by mpire on Sep 8, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this isn't going to come off well to some
And I kind have mentioned it before . . .
I keep telling all my fellow Rams friends that it’s a good thing their schedule is so damn tough in the early going. I honestly feel that if they start out the season around 2-6 or 1-7 (being generous), Linehan will finally be gone and this mess can be cleaned up sooner than later.
He is not a motivator whatsoever and even if he’s trying to fake it nowadays, the players that have been here for years can see right through it. There is never going to be any kind of respect given to him cause they already know who he is.
My dream scenario is that the Rams struggle badly for the first few games. Get rid of Linehan hopefully much sooner than later. Saunders moves from upstairs down to the sidelines and takes over. Now anyone who has seen Al yell and run down the sidelines knows that players respond to that kind of emotion.
Anyways, back to that dream scenario. The Rams hopefully rally behind Saunders and make a late season playoff push considering how bad the NFC West is . . . anything is possible.
Even Leonard Little said it best . . .
“To me, and I’ve been around here 10 years, and this is the most talented team I’ve ever been around as far as pure talent,” defensive end Leonard Little said. “But we’ve got to find a way to take it to the field. And show more on the field. We needed to come out and win this game. And we’d better win right away and get on the right track, because we don’t want to go down that same road that we took last year.”
I honestly believe deep down inside that the Rams talent pool this year is huge. We have so many damn good players. I just think it’s up to someone to bring that talent out.
And this isn’t because I’m biased. I usually tell it like I see it.
The only concern for me is our always mismatched LB core and some depth on the defensive line and secondary. As for our starters, they got the talent to be good.
Some of them . . . really really good.
by Option27 on Sep 8, 2008 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT - Brady out for the year!
I don’t wish harm onto anyone usually but I’m sorry if a take a little joy out of this one.
I can’t stand those cheating Pats at all.
They finally got what they deserved.
All in all . . . get better Brady. You still have Gisele.
by Option27 on Sep 8, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Up your nose with a rubber hose!!!!
I’ve got two….TWO…..fantasy football teams and he’s the starting quarter back on BOTH of ’em!!!!
Well, he WAS the starting quarterback…………
Although, i drafted well as far as backups (Favre on one team, Rodgers on the other), I was counting on at least 35 touchdowns from Brady. What’s actually funny is almost every quarter back I’ve had for the past two years has gotten hurt almost immediately. I’m bigger than the Madden Curse. And the worst was last year watching Monday Night Football, knowing I needed another quarterback because all of mine were hurt, so I picked up David Garrard only to see him go down in a heap about 5 minutes after the transaction went through.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I’m sorry man . . .
Fantasy aside, I can’t help my hatred for the man.
If he wasn’t on your fantasy team, maybe you might know what I’m talking about
by Option27 on Sep 8, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I’ve always like him. He’s a great qb and I can’t hate him because of that. Plus, he’s not an asshat or anything. Just because he’s popular and dates hot chicks (and has unprotected sex with them at the same time), isn’t reason enough for me to hate him.
I was actually rooting for them to win the SuperBowl undefeated last year for many reasons, but also because I wanted to shut up the ’72 Dolphins who are a complete group off asshats.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and maybe you might wanna pick up Cassel ASAP
by Option27 on Sep 8, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I was at a local establishment watching the Rams (I’m an out-of-towner) when it happened. I’m not too worried about it. Btw, I left at the start of the 4th quarter and by the time I got home (10 minutes?), he was already taken. But, i wasn’t sure if I wanted him anyway. And since at that time, it was still up in the air about Brady’s health (although I knew as soon as I saw it live) I couldn’t afford to drop Brady to create the spot.
I’m fine with Favre in one league (now backed up by Warner, who I think is actaully gonna start for me next week against Miami, which is better than Favre against NE) and Rodgers in the other backed up by Trent Edwards, for the time being, who looks to have an extremely favorable schedule.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's some history here...
Bledsoe lost his starting job due to injury and his (then) backup playing well.
If the backup steps in and continues to win, is Belicheck going to think about pulling the plug on golden boy?
by mpire on Sep 8, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Bledsoe was never as good as Brady
even when Bledsoe was good, he wasn’t Brady good.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
I was perplexed last year (and the year before) because I’ve always felt the talent on this team way out did the actual results. I’ve wanted Linehan gone a long time. It was painfully obvious he was in way over his head during his first season and honestly I felt he did a better job that season and has gotten progressively worse and less prepared/motivating each year.
I seriously wonder what conversation between him and Haslett must be like? As low as I am on Haslett after yesterday’s disaster, I’ve actually advocated for him to be with the team in some capacity (DC, HC) for about a year. He’s got to know he could do better. Of course with yesterdays defensive showing, he may think he can do better, but I’m not exactly sure he can.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saunders finally deserves a chance to show what he can do
I’m usually on board with getting someone with some HC experience but I think Al is perfect for this team.
by Option27 on Sep 8, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not
someone needs to do something to attempt to salvage this season. And you’re right, the NFC West is really bad. There’s no reason to think that with the talent on the team, they couldn’t compete for the division.
Best part of the schedule is 3 of the last 4 games of the year are against NFC West opponents.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even better
After the Dallas game, every game is winnable.
Yes I’m even counting the New England game. They barely beat a horrid KC team.
If Linehan is gone within the first 6 games, we seriously could have a shot
by Option27 on Sep 8, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Joe Vitt
Sacrificial lamb.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
skill talent, not core talent
“I was perplexed last year (and the year before) because I’ve always felt the talent on this team way out did the actual results.”
We’ve had some decent skill position players, but without true strength and good coaching of the offensive line, and front seven of the defense, this team will never turn the corner.
For example, early in yesterday’s broadcast, the announcers were drawing Al Saunders comparisons – Steven Jackson to Priest Holmes or Larry Johnson; Randy McMichael filling the Tony Gonzalez role, and presumably Bulger sitting back and distributing the ball around smartly. But all of that skill success was predicated on the incredible Chiefs offensive line of that era. They had five mammoth guys who simply never missed games, and rarely missed assignments.
We (cough) don’t have that.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Sep 9, 2008 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we have the talent on the line
but the health and organization of the line has derailed it.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Haslett gone as well...
I don’t think he’s done that good a job…wasn’t he kind of forced on Lenihan anyway? If that’s true, those situations rarely work out…a coach has to be able to hire his own coordinators…in situations such as this, you don’t know who’s stabbing you in the back and undermining you to your players when you aren’t around…I’m not saying this is the case, I don’t know for sure…it’s just that the situation has gotten so bad, there is no telling what is going on…if Lenihan hasn’t lost his players, it’s a miracle.
by tbell61 on Sep 8, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone has been forced on Linehan since after the first season
Which is the reason I don’t understand why he’s the head coach. It’s like Shaw and Zigmunt won’t admit a colossal failure so they try to surround their hand-picked cub with talent and it’s failing magnificently. Really, what situation succeeds where the head coach has virtually no say (other than “yeah, that’s a great idea!”) as to who his staff is going to consist of?
I don’t think Linehan has been responsible for 1 current coach on the staff.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The truly scary thing about the loss – and the possibility of Linehan’s head taking a lonely roll sometime shortly after – is that the defense was equally culpable for the margin of defeat. I mean, it’s remarkable that we gave up 38 points without a turnover, and with excellent punting and punt coverage all day. The Eagles didn’t once have a drive start on their side of the field, and only one of their possessions started with a true ‘short field.’
Yes, Linehan sucks. But you’re not solving the problem if you just fire him. I mean, if it’s canned motivation you’re looking for, Haslett is as bullheaded and loud as they come. But the players will tune him out just as quickly, if they haven’t already.
The real culprit here is soft-headedness in the Rams front office. Whatever they’re evaluating coaching hires on, it isn’t on-field performance or leadership ability.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Sep 9, 2008 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's get this clear
the correct spelling of the rams’ coach’s surname is
L-I-N-E-H-A-N
thanks.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 8, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think they should
have drafted Deren McFfaden and hired Jimmi Jhonson. Especially since Criss Long is worthless as is Linnehan and Hasltet.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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