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Rams youth movement, continued

Mike Sando has a great blog, dedicated to the NFC West, over at ESPN's blog network. If you don't read it, you should make it a part of your daily stroll around the interwebs.There's a link in our links menu on the left side of the page.

Anyway, today, he responds to our continuing lobbying for the Rams to give the younger players more playing time, concluding:

I'm not sure how much the future of the franchise changes by suddenly leaning on those players before they might be ready. On the other hand, it's tough to imagine things getting any worse.

It sounds cynical, but that last point echoes what we've been saying here.Why not stick 'em in there? Too much chance the Rams might get beat 41-13 or 38-6? oh wait.

An Sando makes clear, the Rams don't have a heckuva lot of young players left to turn to, a painful reality we fans are all too aware of. And a number of young players are already playing, some to better results (Chris Long) than others (Tye Hill). Specters of bad drafts past will haunt this franchise for a while. But there are a few rookie and younger guys that aren't being played enough, that I remain convinced the Rams should employ more as the season goes on. We covered this in yesterday's post, but let me go back for a quick review.

Many of us noted in the comments this Sunday and the day after, that the second year DT Clifton Ryan and third year DE Adeyanju didn't see many snaps. And the Rams could have used them agains the run.

Donnie Avery wasn't available last week, but getting his speed in the lineup would seem beneficial...if the line can play well enough to give Bulger time in the pocket. Why bury him behind the ancient Dante Hall who's clearly lost a step in his twilight years.

OL John Greco probably couldn't do any worse than the porous middle did last week. Move Incognito to C, get Bell back and use Greco at RG. Worth a shot, no?

Give Chris Chamberlain a try at S or leave him at LB against the pass. He looks good in coverage, an area of great need for the Rams, why not give him a shot? At this point, we might as well see what Brandon Condren can do with a few reps at S. The fewer snaps the slowed, aging Chavous sees, the more effective he is on the snaps he does see...or so the theory goes.

Trying something new can't really hurt a team struggling like this. And the young guys offer another advantage by compensating with some of their enthusiasm and the chance to establish themselves in the pros.

Relying on the rookies over veterans with the team in a must-win situation is a tough argument to make, certainly to coaches. Honestly though, from the fan perspective, it's as much about having something to root for, the future, in the midst of another lost season. If only the Rams had more rookies to turn to.

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I agree, we need to play the young'uns, just not yet

This is the first game we should win. The Eagles and Giants have too much talent on both sides of the ball, especially on the lines. The Seahawks, on the other hand, match up against us.
This is a game we can win. Since we still have the coaching staff we started with, why would not play the starting team we began the season with? If we play the rookies, will we not be second-guessing ourselves as to whether or not we would have won with a bit more experience on the field? Imagine how easy it will be to hit up Linehan for personnel changes going into a winnable game.
And if we do play the older starters and lose, does it not further the pressure to play the rookies?
I say, keep the depth chart what it was… and for Buffalo, shake it up.

by 3k on Sep 18, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with you

As much as I want to see Linehan dumped, he should be able to go out on his terms. He should be able to play the players he has the most faith in as opposed to rolling the dice with the rookies.

If they want to dump Linehan and name an interim coach, then they should start mixing up the starting roster quite a bit, but not now. Especially against the sorry ass Seahawks who are scared to death they’re going to lose to the Rams in the first place.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Sep 18, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

this week

is about as must win as it gets

by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 18, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is it!

this is our week for a win in the first 7 weeks.

Rams Gab!
www.ramsgab.com

by jroman on Sep 18, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

rookies vs vets is a red herring

With a new offensive coordinator, whose passing game plan depends largely on short passes and timing between the QB and receivers, everyone is a “rookie.” We all saw how badly mistimed Bulger and Bennett were all preseason and into game 1, despite Bennett’s ‘veteran’ status. And if you have a guy like Dante Hall who has lost a step or three, and was never an impact WR even in his halcyon days in KC with Saunders as his coordinator, you don’t have anything to gain by putting him in the lineup.

Bottom line, winning the game depends on putting your best personnel on the field. If Avery can get to his spots quicker than the guy he is replacing, and be ready for the ball when it arrives, he should be on the field. Period.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Sep 19, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, i hope we can't play worse

football outsiders has our last two week as the the second worst start to a season since 1995.

oh yea, and we are so bad, we broke their algorithm cause we haven’t been in the red zone yet…we haven’t been in the red zone yet!

http://fo3.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/week-2-dvoa-ratings-1

Rams Gab!
www.ramsgab.com

by jroman on Sep 18, 2008 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Just wait til they get a load of the 0-3 Seahawks next week.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Sep 18, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

hilarious
Why the crash? Because the Rams have not had a single play in the red zone yet this year. That’s right: The Rams suck so bad that they broke our programs.

If the Terminators come to wipe out humanity, the Rams might be our only hope.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Sep 19, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

any talk of coaching changes yet??

i know guys we need to play the young guys but with a coaching change every one will play better , these coaches just cant get any effort out of our guys young or old,
james

by james535 on Sep 18, 2008 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

nothing but veiled comments

Rosenbloom said something like “things need to change or else”.

Take it for what it’s worth. I think he’s serious about making a change, but being that he basically just took over I think he’s got cold feet about doing it so early in the season.

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Sep 18, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just had a weird dream

Honest to God, I just woke up about 20 minutes ago from a dream. Check this out: Bulger hooked up with Holt with about 4 minutes to go and the Rams went up 13-10. Then for some reason, I changed the channel, and when I had changed it back, the game had just ended. It was 14-13 Seahawks. How Seattle scored four points in 4 minutes, I don’t know. Thought this was worth sharing.

by 3k on Sep 19, 2008 12:43 AM CDT reply actions  

No, you just missed the final part

There was defensive holding which gave the Rams one last play and then Josh Brown kicks a 58 yard field goal for the winner and then tells Mike Holmgren “PUT THAT ON YOUR BULLETIN BOARD”!!!!

Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Tackle Box on Sep 19, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

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