Rams coaching changes fail to address larger problems
Calls for the Rams to fire head coach Scott Linehan are nothing new, ditto the demands for changes in the front office. However, at no point last season were such calls as overt and loud as they are now. Two of the St. Louis Post Dispatch's, the hometown fish wrap, most prominent sports columnists, Brian Burwell and Bernie Miklasz, used their allotted space in today's paper to make open calls for Scott Linehan and Rams GM Jay Zygmunt to tender their resignations. Laying blame unquestionably at their feet for the state of disrepair that the Rams franchise has succumbed to.
They're absolutely right. President Lincoln canned general after general when the Army of the Potomac struggled during the Civil War. And no company concerned with their bottom line would tolerate comparable results year after after. Granted, the Rams situation isn't quite as dire as a nation torn asunder, but the point is incompetence starts at the top and that's where it first and foremost needs to be dealt with.
The current cadre of Rams leadership made numerous changes to the coaching staff after last season, bringing in new blood to help fix troubled areas...and give Linehan another shot in the wake of an injury-wrecked season. So far the return on their investment has been rather poor. Art Valero was hired away from Tampa Bay as the Rams new running back coach. Steve Loney, who left a head coaching job at Drake (hmmm, Drake, eh?), to sign on as the Rams offensive line coach. Terry Shea was hired as the new QB coach after being fired by the Chiefs and Dolphins in consecutive seasons. All three coaches are responsible for offensive cogs that aren't clicking.
The most notable change in the coaching staff was the addition of Al Saunders as offensive coordinator. At the time, the move excited us all, pointing to better things ahead after the bland offenses of Linehan and former OC Greg Olsen. The Rams offense under Saunders looks just as stymied as it did under Linehan and Olsen. Part of the problem in this case is the personnel Saunders has to work with, particularly the offensive line. The offense simply lacks the quality needed to run that kind of system - or any system. In my mind, that's indicative of a larger, systemic problem that starts with the GM's failure over the years to provide quality depth as well as the coaching staff's inability to get the maximum effort from the players they do have.
Remember when Jim Haslett's defense played above their heads last year? No Leonard Little and no more than 4 games with both Tye Hill and Fakhir Brown in the lineup together, the starting corners? Last year, when the calls for Linehan's head began in earnest, fans proffered Haslett as a replacement. His ability to get more out of the Rams defense last year even got his name thrown into head coaching rumors elsewhere. Now, I'm not so sure about that Haslett's any better option than Linehan, as the defense, particularly the backfield, seems to have displayed apathy over talent so far this season.
Rumblings from people in the know make it clear that Linehan has lost the players, most of them anyway, but there's more to the story we're not privy to. From this vantage point, it looks as though turmoil plagues the coaching staff too.
It's hard to say exactly what's going on, like any crisis, there are factions and factions mean multiple takes on the story. What's indisputable is the need for accountability, from coaches, front office people and the players themselves. All the new coaching changes made between this season and last sounded great, but have since been revealed as nothing more than window dressing because the real problem is at the top.
Yes, Zygmunt needs to go and the coaching staff needs to be shaken up. But don't stop there. Bench the players that quit, or at least make a couple examples from the lot of them. And play the rookie more, guys like Keenan Burton, Donnie Avery and John Greco. They're too hungry to quit. They won't necessicarily make the on-field product any better, but they won't quit.
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The difference between Linehan and Zigmunt
I’ve been one of the few still suggesting Linehan get more time. I’m not saying we sign him to a multi-year extension, I just don’t see what you stand to gain by firing him now. I stand by that. As Burwell said in the linked article above, “the most obvious short-term solution is to fire Linehan…what will that really accomplish?”
As for Jay Zygmunt, his drafts have been pathetic for the last 4 years. “A man who signs players not because of their talent, but because he gets along with their agents; hires coaches not because they are the most qualified, but because they’ll be his buddy.” A general manage who doesn’t manage, but rewards. Zygmunt needs to go yesterday and let someone come in, start reshaping the mentality of this team from the top, and when Linehan leaves at the end of this season, the mentality will bring in the right coach to mold our rookies and keep our veterans productive.
Linehan’s a symptom; Zygmunt’s the illness
by 3k on Sep 15, 2008 12:47 PM CDT 0 recs
If all of this is true then
I don’t think there is any hope of the Rams contending seriously until Zygmunt is gone. NFL team simply do not do well without sound personel decisions.
I understood that a lot of people considered the last Rams draft to be pretty strong, though perhaps I misremember or it was just wishful thinking from Ram fans.
by WestCoastBuc on
Sep 15, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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i agree
instead of treating the symptoms by firing Linehan, who will then by replaced by another Zygmunt lacky, I’m all for firing Zygmunt.
Do I think it will really happen? No. But, it is what needs to be done.
We need to flush out the problems top (Zygmunt) to middle (Linehan and Haslett) to bottom (Chavous, and other underachieving veterans).
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by jroman on
Sep 15, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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When we hired Dick Vermile he cleaned house
Dick V. after his first year with the Rames cleaned house, he sain im not running a hospital here for the sick and lame, any one that dose not give me 100 % is out of here, and he did just that and we won a super bowl in three years under his leadership, he was a head coach, Mike martz was not a head coach and that is why we lost the second super bowl even thogh we still had VERMILES TEAM
he did not have the leadership of DICK V, but Mike M , is and was miles ahead of Linehan, there are not even in the same leage, every underachieving player should and will be shiped out by any good coach, but getting rid of ISAK B. to keep D. Benet , lol only Linehan can make mooves like this, what a f… ng moron , as for Zygmunt, i pray every night that he gets Canser in his balls
james
by james535 on
Sep 15, 2008 3:52 PM CDT
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wrong
John Shaw cleaned house and Dick Vermeil resisted. Oh and by the way……Vermeil’s first two years the team went 5-11 and 4-12. After that, Shaw insisted that Vermeil let go his offensive coordinator to be replaced by Mike Martz. Then the team won the SuperBowl.
Honestly, I’m not going to respond to this crap anymore unless you are blatantly stating untrue facts. And, you know what, you apparently have a computer so please look up a name from time to time. Would it kill you to actually know how to spell the names of the players on the team you are masquerading as a fan of? You call Linehan an “f… ng moron” yet you can’t spell worth a shit.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Sep 15, 2008 8:47 PM CDT
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If you dump Zygmunt, then you have to dump Linehan
Jay Zygmunt isn’t keeping Scott Linehan from being a passable NFL head coach and it isn’t going to magically make the players like him and want to play their asses off for him. There’s absolutely no reason to keep him. They aren’t going to resign him after this year, so what’s the point?
Replace Zygmunt and Linehan and start the rehaul now. You should keep the coordinators because their systems are already in place and you aren’t going to change that mid-season. But, you bring in anybody else as the head coach if for no other reason than to put everyone else on notice.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
Sep 15, 2008 2:28 PM CDT
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no not any body you bring in a Jimmy Jhonson
we need a disipline type of coach not just any one some one that every player will respect and give his coach 100 % effort
james
by james535 on
Sep 15, 2008 3:38 PM CDT
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true dat
just as an example, Faulk’s been very clear that he would not work for the Rams with Shaw and Z in their current leadership roles. Get a real football on top of things
by VanRam on
Sep 15, 2008 2:47 PM CDT
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The fish stinks from the head first
it all starts at the top , from zigmunt on down the line, he hired linehan and they should both be fired and every one linehan has brought to this team as a coach should be fired now with out any more delay, listen to what Marshal Faulk said, and i agree with every word, first drew bennet should not be on the field instead of Isak Bruce, and second Marshal said he could run a 100 yards right now against Hasletts deffence, the coaches of this team are just not able to coach at this level, they are out of there leage, it shows every game , they need to be replacced now with out delay, end of story
james
by james535 on
Sep 15, 2008 3:19 PM CDT
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They both have to go now
there is no at the end of the season for Linehan , Zigmunt and Linehan have to go now
james
by james535 on
Sep 15, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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They just need someone real
Saunders can get something out of these players.
I swear
by Option27 on Sep 15, 2008 1:38 PM CDT 0 recs
I don't know about Saunders
But Haslett and Linehan can’t do the job.
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by jroman on
Sep 15, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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Saunders Blows
Saunders is trying plays that might have work for KC 5 years ago, but when i see him try running plays with Dante Hall, a frail 160 lbs wide recever return guy when he has a S.J as a runer , sorry but i have to wonder about him, when i see in the first game he pass the ball 10 time to R. Mc. and he calles one pass to Tory Holt, i dont have to think about it much more then that to tell you and every one that this is not the right guy to handle our offence, A. Saunders is out of place and out of date for this team and should follow his boss on the way out
james
by james535 on
Sep 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT
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I feel like an asshole
by hoping this team continues to tank. I feel that 1-15 is the only way that might grab the sleepy Rosenbloom’s attention. Call me a bad fan if you’d like, but I have a feeling that 3 or 4 wins assures Zygmunt and Linehan are running the show again in 2009 and beyond. Jeeze, I feel like a real asshole.
Steriods is...is bad.
by Handsome Jimmy on Sep 15, 2008 3:20 PM CDT 0 recs
WE NEED A REAL COACH ! OLD SCHOOL
HIRE A REAL COACH FOR THIS TEAM AND FIRE THESE CLOWNS THEY BELONG IN A CIRCUS ACT NOT A FOOTBALL TEAM, WHAT A JOKE THIS IS , A DAM SHAME ,POOR GEORGIA IS TURNING IN HER GRAVE RIGHT NOW
JAMES
by james535 on Sep 15, 2008 3:21 PM CDT 0 recs
BULGER IS DONE AND GONE FOR EVER
Mark Bulger is worryed about letting Linehan down, i think that is funny, they belong together retired from football , Bulger has too many hits in the head and too much money in the bank to be worry about this football team , this coach has allowed these players to become WIMPS, are players are all pussys, by far the worst team in the NFL today, Bulger should worry about his suck ass preformance and not Linehans ass, how pathitic this is ,
james
by james535 on Sep 15, 2008 3:25 PM CDT 0 recs
WE JUST NEED A REAL HEAD COACH
We need a super bowl winer for a coach, Jimmy Jhonson would not only bring out the best from his player and there respect ,but this team would have the dicipline and personality of a winner , every thing you say is corect about the coaching and players and the only way to corect it is by paying the money and getting a Real Head Coach not some little leage coach like Linehan, lets get the ball rolling Rams, do what needs to be done here,
james
by james535 on Sep 15, 2008 3:34 PM CDT 0 recs
All is not lost? Tryin' to stay optimistic!
(first off, as I’ve said before, Linehan MUST GO. Yesterday.)
But I’m tryin’ to be optimistic about the season…
Yes, the Rams have been AWFUL. I’m aware. But, as I always like to point out, we play in a crap division where ANYONE can take it (unless you’re buying into Arizona…I’m lovin’ Kurt Warner, but I’m not quite there yet). That’s what always keeps me optimistic…at least ‘til we reach the 8th loss. That said, this weekend in Seattle is EVERYTHING. Win a big one on the road and we go to 1-2 in the division and knock the defending champs to a freefalling 0-3, hopefully tying us for 2nd place with the 49ers (if they lose to Detroit). The “class” of the division and everyone’s preseason pick would drop to 0-3, THEN face the Giants and Packers after that. Seahawks at 0-5? I love the sound of that. We MUST find a way to win this one, or it could be another 3-13 sorta year.
by bigwood25 on Sep 15, 2008 4:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Jimmy Johnson?
Re: James
That’s just being silly. He isn’t going anywhere, let alone to us.
Also, you might want to type your posts on Word, use their spellcheck, then post here. I hate to be ugly, but if you’re going to post a lot, it’d be nice to not have a seizure as I try to read what you have to say.
A friend of mine suggested we employ a little Marty Ball to right the ship. Though it’d no doubt be an upgrade, I still puked in my mouth a little thinking about it.
BEG Vermeil to come in midseason as HC/Top Motivator. Promote Saunders to HC after he leaves. Replace Art Valero with Marshall Faulk as RBs coach. Allow Trent Green to stay as QBs coach after he retires. Hire Ron Rivera for DC next year and bring back the Lovie Ball Cover 2. TRY and bring back the glory.
by bigwood25 on Sep 15, 2008 4:45 PM CDT 0 recs
I wasn't a believer in Schottenheimer until recently
If you put his shoddy playoff record behind a curtain and look at everything else he does for a football team, he could be precisely the guy we need for a short-term turnaround:
- Is a good talent evaluator, and carries a lot of respect into a draft room.
- Also attracts strong coaches and coordinators to his staff – past examples are Bill Cowher, Tony Dungy, Herm Edwards, Wade Phillips, Cam Cameron. He could essentially breed his successor.
- Focuses on defensive strength and stout offensive line – which he typically prefers to run behind, but once you fix the line you can run any offense you want
If not Marty, then Bill Cowher is also out there, presumably waiting for the right opportunity to get back into the game…
Of course, none of these guys will touch St. Louis with a 10-foot pole until we get a football man at the top of football operations. Schottenheimer just escaped a poisonous GM relationship in San Diego, and Cowher came from one of the most stable and forgiving football ownership groups in the league.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on
Sep 16, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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I'd take Shottenheimer getting this team to the playoffs and losing in the first round
Sure beats the hell out of 3-13.
Beggars can’t be choosers after all…..
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Tackle Box on
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