San Francisco 49ers at St. Louis Rams, week 16 game thread
by VanRam on Dec 21, 2008 10:56 AM CST
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San Francisco 49ers at St. Louis Rams, Dec 21, 2008 12:00 PM CST
| St. Louis Rams (2-12) | WEEK 16 | San Francisco 49ers (5-9) |
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| Date: | Dec. 21, 2008 | Location: | St. Louis, MO |
| Time: | 1 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Ed Jones Dome |
| TV: | FOX | Favorite: | San Fran, +5 |
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Only the welcome's frigid in the Dome. | SBN Cardinals: | Niners Nation |
I feel like I'm running out of things to say...the Rams games this season are starting to run together, and watching them at this point is more an exercise in judging the set up for 2009.
There are still a couple of plots for these last two games to pay attention to. First, Jim Haslett's future with the Rams. Win 'em or lose 'em, Haslett's nothing more than just another candidate at this point. Though there's nothing to make us believe it's possible, if the Rams do pull it together for these last two games, it might have some positive impact on Haslett's future. One more thought on that. The players seem to favor Haslett and he's got a rep as a "player's coach," is that a good thing for this bunch of lollygaggers? I think they need someone who draws a firm, no, immovable line for player accountability.
The second major plot threading through the Rams already unraveled season, which name players stay or go. With names like Holt, Pace, and Little potentially on the chopping block, these games will have some impact on their future, even if it means increasing their trade value. For example, suppose Torry Holt plays like the Torry Holt of old, could that make it easier to trade him for a draft pick? Maybe. He'd be a great second or third receiver for a competitive team at this stage of his career.
Finally, though this is a minor plot relative to the others, Steven Jackson's quest for 1,000 yards. It's unlikely he makes it, but if he does at least it would quiet some of the "overrated" talk, because getting 1,000 yards rushing through 12 games behind this sad sack bunch of blockers in the middle of this sputtering offense would be sort of impressive.
That's it.
Go Rams!
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Well, here we go again
Not too much football left for the Rams. CB blitz almost got Bulger’s spine snapped
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Good start after botched 1st play
Jackson with a nice run and a nice 7-yard out to Donnie Avery
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Nice hard count by Bulger
1st & 5 set up for a 3 yard run to Jackson. 2nd & 2… how are we not going to make another 1st down?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Time for some defense
At least we’re going to get some good evaluations out of today’s game
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Almost picked off by Fakhir Brown
3-man front with 2-LB blitz, and Hill tried to hit Bruce, but Brown had nice underneath coverage to force the 3 & out.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Jackson's running hard today
Maybe Van’s push to see him hit 1k yards motivated him
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
crappy route
Should have ran it to the 1st down marker. At least we converted the 4th down attempt
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
I like the going for it on 4th
But I would think a run would be called for.
Holt's starting to show for Bulger
Easy slants are working like clockwork
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
observations
- Keenan Burton’s not doing well running routes this season
- Alex Barron will not be a Ram next year
- If Richie Incognito is the second best OL we’ve got, no wonder the line sucks. Or is he just overrated or both?
What’s up with Barron? Is he a “healthy scratch” today? I hadn’t heard anything about any injury of his until your announcement that he was on the sidelines today.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
he's playing.
He got a penalty on his 2nd play in the game, so don’t fret, taiko. Barron is his usual self today.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
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Keenan Burton’s not doing well running routes this season
No, he’s not. He looks like his timing is off with Bulger. It’s something they’ll have to work on seriously going into next year because his role will increase substantially unless we sign a FA WR.
Alex Barron will not be a Ram next year
Let’s hope not.
If Richie Incognito is the second best OL we’ve got, no wonder the line sucks. Or is he just overrated or both?
I honestly don’t think he’s overrated. He’s a good blocker, it’s just that he’s also a blockhead.
Also, what is with Donnie Avery’s hands? He has to catch every ball in his gut. Worrisome.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Good blocking on that run
but I hate the wildcat. It’s time to put the wildcat formation to sleep.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
He's been running hard today
Looks solid
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Burton!
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Keenan Burton
Nice catch. On simple routes, he’s solid. When he has to make cuts, his timing’s off. Glad to see Bulger make a nice play when he has time
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
So, are you guys actually able to see the game today? Second consecutive week of blackouts here in StL…
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Yeah, I'm watching on DirecTv
Sunday ticket is a must in the 3k household.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Shaun Hill looks like junk
Who was hyping this guy up recently? He looks absolutely terrible.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
The Rams defense is flipping the script – making a journeyman quarterback look like a journeyman, rather than an all-pro.
Then again, Haslett’s defenses have always bedeviled Martz’s offenses…
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Is that the third drawn-offsides by Bulger today?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Incognito dropped a double block on that play
He’s a solid blocker. He really is. He’s just a garlichead.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
"Garlichead" My new favorite insult
I hope you don’t mind if I steal it.
If Darby keeps the ball off the ground, he’s a pretty damn good playmaker …
Where’s Jackson? Already in the tunnel?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
interesting, though, that Darby has become the go-to back on passing downs, considering that Jackson has been a pretty good pass-catcher in his time.
(And yes, I have him on my fantasy team, and I’m just whining.)
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Draft watch
Why can’t we just lose these last two and solidify the draft position? It woulda been so easy for the mock draft. Oh well, halftime draft watch:
Detroit (0 wins): losing 28-7 to New Orleans
St. Louis (2 wins): winning 13-3 vs. San Francisco
Kansas City (2 wins): losing 21-24 vs. Miami
Cincinnati (2 wins, 1 tie): winning 14-0 at Cleveland
Both 3 win teams, Seattle & Oakland, play in the late block.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Also at the half, Cardinals are looking less like a playoff team, more like an NFC West team. Could easily finish the year 8-9, from the looks of it.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Just saw that update. 31-0?
The NFC West is so junk
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
They’re also the latest sunshine/dome team to get exposed in the snow and cold. Patriots have a 16-3 advantage in first downs, 270-55 advantage in yards, 55-0 advantage in guys playing in short sleeves.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Kansas City about to score before the half.
Great 2-min drill by the Chiefs
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
TD on the first play after I said that.
Thanks, KC!
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
He does. Ironically, I just got done laying a comment on the Niners Nation Q&A about how done he is. :laff:
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Best 1st half HB in the NFL?
Certainly not the effort you assume he would give if we were in the playoff hunt. Anyone see Derrick Mason last night? He was making my shoulder hurt.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Nix that
He’s back on the field. Kudos
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't see the game last night...
But I’m impressed by guys who play hard when they’re hurt. With Steven Jackson, you can tell when he’s hurt because he plays hurt. And I don’t mean that in the good way. He drops at the first contact, doesn’t make adventurous cuts, distracts himself from catchable balls, etc. It’s frustrating. And I can understand why he gets the “sissy” tag from some fans.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
What a bunk drive.
Weak 3 and out. Defense was phenomenal that 1st half. Of course, a lot of that was due to the turnovers from San Fran. Should be interesting to see how they come out this half. More of the same, or a Seattle-esque set of changes?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Another great blitz!
D looks good today. Second sack of the series, 3rd of the game. Good to see Leonard Little get his.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins): losing 28-7 to New Orleans, 11:28 remaining in the 3rd
St. Louis (2 wins): winning 13-3 vs. San Francisco, 10:34 remaining in the 3rd
Kansas City (2 wins): winning 28-24 vs. Miami, halftime
Cincinnati (2 wins, 1 tie): winning 14-0 at Cleveland, 3:51 remaining in the 3rd
Both 3 win teams, Seattle & Oakland, play in the late block.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
+18 yards in field position
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Bulger with the... reception?
Wildcat formation, reverse to Looker, has to throw and finds Bulger on the sideline. So goofy
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Yeah. why do you design a play to the slowest guy on the field, and run it multiple times per year? I’ll bet Jim Hanifan can outrun Bulger.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
That's hilarious
Drew Bennett is a prime example of the failure of Jay Zygmunt as a GM
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
yet another drive-killer by richie.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
OT: Chris Johnson just parlayed a beautiful inside cut off a pitch for a 20-yard touchdown for Tennessee.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Okay, here comes the Niners. You know they’re going to deliver a punch. Can we take it, and can we respond?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
JT O'Sullivan warming up for SF
I wanted us to lose this game to cement our #2 draft pick. Of course, I can’t be too upset about winning. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Yeah, but you have to wonder about the effect on Jackson's leg
You can tell he’s not 100%. His mobility is blatantly affected. We certainly don’t want this to be something we’re still talking about next year.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Hell,
If he gets the TD, let him take the game off. Up 20-3 the way our defense is playing, let Darby take the rest of the snaps.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
play selection through 3
29 rushes, 27 passes (not counting offensive penalties)
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins): losing 42-7 to New Orleans, 3:04 remaining in the 3rd
St. Louis (2 wins): winning 13-3 vs. San Francisco, end of the 3rd
Kansas City (2 wins): tied 31-31 vs. Miami, 6:46 remaining in the 3rd
Cincinnati (2 wins, 1 tie): winning 14-0 at Cleveland, 8:49 remaining in the 4th
Both 3 win teams, Seattle & Oakland, play in the late block.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
I’m not begrudging the field goal, but it would be refreshing for the Rams to break 20.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Are we playing on a neutral field today? don’t think I’ve heard the crowd once….
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Jackson still pounding away
3rd 100-yd rushing game for SJ this season and a season high in carries.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
gritty
I take back what I said about SJ playing hurt.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Yeah, he's put in a great effort
Gotten results for his work too
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
and a deserving no-call on the fumble.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
seriously, though, his inability to take the ball and run out the clock was the difference last week … this week he’s been money in that department, even if he did most of his statistical damage in the first half.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins): losing 42-7 to New Orleans, 6:25 remaining in the 4th
St. Louis (2 wins): winning 16-3 vs. San Francisco, 8:04 remaining in the 4th
Kansas City (2 wins): tied 31-31 vs. Miami, 13:02 remaining in the 4th
Cincinnati (2 wins, 1 tie): winning 14-0 at Cleveland, 2:00 remaining in the 4th
Both 3 win teams, Seattle & Oakland, play in the late block.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
$1 says that the losing quarterback of the CIN/CLE game never sees another year on a pro roster.
Ryan Fitzpatrick: 5-9 for 55 yards (and a TD!)
Ken Dorsey: 10-17 for 68 yards and 3 INTs
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Football fans everywhere are hoping that's the case
Fitz is an intelligent, good guy. Just not talented. Ken Dorsey has been junk since he went to Miami.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Chris Long has had another nice game
Yeoman’s work. Maybe when he moves to LDE, the stats will start piling up. He’s playing against RT’s every game; not exactly a pass-rusher’s dream.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
Atogwe had another nice game as well
all over the stat sheet – 7 tackles, 1 INT, 1 FF and recovery
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
tsk tsk
awarding game balls mid-game = bad luck
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Cincy-Cleveland is a final
So even if we win, we’re still ahead of them for draft position
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
2 catches in a row
Up to 999, now
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
ouch.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
are they running any 3-man defensive fronts today? I haven’t heard then mention it on the radio, but Pisa seems to be getting good penetration, like a typical edge-rushing linebacker.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
he is not a pass defender.
He’s got instincts that draw him to the turnover, like the strip in the first half, but when the ball is in the air and he’s covering a man, he consistently makes poor choices or poor plays.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Steven Jackson can’t help much at this point — the pressure is on Bulger and the receivers to make plays. If we execute just one two-minute drill, this is the time to do it.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Where'd the hard count go?
It was working so well in the 1st half and I haven’t heard Marc use it this half.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
network tv comedy
I flipped to Fox, to see that they were actually televising the last minute of the Rams game. Then I see Bulger get sacked, second down coming up, and …
Fox goes to a “Game Break.” No show.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
upon further review
Avery is still the man!
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
criminy.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins): lose 42-7 vs. New Orleans, final
St. Louis (2 wins): lose 17-16 vs. San Francisco, final
Kansas City (2 wins): losing 38-31 vs. Miami, 1:36 remaining in the 4th
Cincinnati (2 wins, 1 tie): wins 14-0 at Cleveland, final
Both 3 win teams, Seattle & Oakland, play in the late block.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
and KC just threw a pick
so they lose too
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 21, 2008 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
what the hell happened?
last I saw we were winning, and then I check the score again. lost
geez
at least we get a good pic
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The Rams are not going back to LA ...
they are now planning a relocation to the Philippines. Along with the relocation comes a name change … …
THE MANILA FOLDERS!
by Downing Rules on Dec 21, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
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