Week 15 Seattle Seahawks at St. Louis Rams, Dec 14, 2008: Game Thread
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 11:25 AM CST
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Seattle Seahawks at St. Louis Rams, Dec 14, 2008 12:00 PM CST
This is probably the Rams most winnable game, in terms of the on-paper matchup, remaining this season.
You may have to listen to it on the radio though, since it's blacked out.
We'll be here throughout the game. If you are seeing it on TV, keep us posted.
Go Rams!
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I should have it
on DirecTV Sunday Ticket. I’ll do my game thread thing to keep everyone informed. Just so we’re all on the same page, we do want to lose this in a good way right? The loss puts us in great draft position and maybe give us something to build on with some solid individual performances. Two sacks by Chris Long? INT by Bartell or Atogwe? O-line performance? Consistency from Bulger? Some interesting storylines to watch today. Some crappy teams to watch, too….
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 11:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Tried to sign up over at the Seahawks’ SBNation blog, Field Gulls, but they have a grace period after you sign up where you can’t post so I couldn’t get a Q&A going with them. I’ve already signed up for Niners Nation so I’ll holler at them around Thursday or so.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kick-off roll call & requests
Just wondering who’s around today. If you’re reading this, hit me up with a reply and let me know what you’re interested in for today’s game.
3k – Defensive play: DEs, LBs, & CBs
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A familiar start
Stanley runs straight ahead into 3 tacklers. No cuts, no moves, just sprints straight ahead into coverage.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Darby with a great run
A nice play call. Fake run to Jackson, pitch to Darby, he makes a shoulder juke and picks up a 1st. Great call, great run.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Back to back plays to Avery
WR screen for 5, reverse for 7. Two first downs so far. Good drive working and only 1 touch for SJ so far.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And now back to back to Jackson
Dump off over the middle for 9, and then a power run for the 3rd first down of the opening drive.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
SJ skills
HB screen and he sheds tackles for the 4th first down. What the hell is going on here? Efficient offense?!
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TD Torry!
Well, that was a hell of an opening drive. Solid productivity, capped off by a vintage play. Bulger pump faked the screen to Jackson and let it fly for Torry who hauled it in for an opening possession TD. The first game I’ve wanted us to lose all year and we start off with a TD. What a season.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i guesss it get lonely when the game is blacked out
im in cali following via nfl.com
nice opening drive
by FunkeeC on Dec 14, 2008 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
When you say following via nfl.com
what does that mean? Audio only, or video too? Is it free?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
it means the gamecast, no audio or video
by FunkeeC on Dec 14, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, gotcha
What part of Cali?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OC
im in huntington beach
i grew up in on the east side just outside st louis
by FunkeeC on Dec 14, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you heard of the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin?
I have tons of family in and around LA, but just got in touch with an old HS friend who writes for the Daily Bulletin. Any clue where their coverage is?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
inland valley is a term for riverside/san bernadino area
out east from me, its probably a small paper type of deal…
by FunkeeC on Dec 14, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tough play to start
Defense has looked solid through 4 plays. The first down came with heavy pressure and Seneca Wallace was able to find his TE downfield.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Same play on both 3rd downs
Rams brought the pressure and this time Carlson, the ‘Hawks’ TE was covered. Good D.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck guys, I think the Rams will win this game in a shootout. Enjoy the game.....on the radio. ;-)
Seattle, the world's worst sports city.
by SSreporters on Dec 14, 2008 12:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fumble recovery for a TD
Ugh. Derek Stanley is quickly becoming my least favorite Ram. He got the ball on the end around and had it punched out from behind. Sloppy, sloppy play.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Steven Jackson going to work
Two nice runs to pick up the first. He’s off to a solid start
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
O-line caves on 3rd
3rd and 1 & the line gets pushed back 3-4 yards. Not going to work.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Only play working for Seattle
Will Witherspoon brought the pressure on Wallace, but he found Carlson again over the middle. Someone has to pick that up on the blitzes.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m watching on Yahoo Stattracker, so statistically it looks like we’re playing a hell of a game. Well except for the rushing. How does the play selection look today? Hopefully their wearing the Seattle line down so Jackson will get some decent runs later.
by GrnGyant on Dec 14, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Selection has been great
We’ve been efficent on offense and aggressive on D. The 3rd down play hurt, but the call was right. I would disagree with the rushing. We’ve been rushing well, I think. We’ve just been more conservative with the run.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My stats weren’t updating right, I thought it said we’d only rushed 5 or 6 times. Sounds promising.
by GrnGyant on Dec 14, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's got 10 carries so far
And a couple receptions
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great pressure on 3rd
Jason Craft has been very aggressive in the nickel. Wallace is having to improvise every time he drops back.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jackson is pounding
He’s 100% today. Running hard and getting good yardage after contact.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They’ve been talking on the radio broadcast about how much yardage he’s getting after that initial hit. (Sounds like) he looks good…
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – losing 7-3 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 14-0 vs. Washington (!)
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 7-0 vs. San Diego
This game showcases the other two 2-win teams. Looks like we’re going to be in the mix for the 2nd pick.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would still like us to somehow end up in the seventh to tenth draft pick range. It seems like there’s so much risk/reward for those top picks, and I’d really like us to pull a kansas city, and trade a ton to get as many picks as possible.
by GrnGyant on Dec 14, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good slant to Burton
10-yard in for a 1st. Glad to see Burton getting involved.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
O-line looks shaky
They haven’t done a great job so far. Incognito just got a false start to set up 3rd & 15
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And Holt comes through!
A nice play call to find Holt on the sideline for 18. He’s showing us some classic Holt today.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two botched pass plays
Very, very confused here. I’m not sure what the hell was going on with either of those plays.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulger
obviously had a word for Darby being out of place
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sloppy drive
Nice find on 2nd to Klopfenstein, but the WR screen looked as sloppy as the two 1st down plays. I don’t know what the hell got into us here.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
some players
don’t look like they know what the hell’s going on
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Going for it on 4th
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and Jackson busts for 15
He looks great today
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?!
Wildcat formation, reverse to Looker who finds Bulger on the sideline. Let’s get back to normal football, now, please
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Looker
he catches, he kicks, and he throws!
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Another Holt catch
Where has this been all year I wonder. He’s the most intelligent, polished receiver we have. Why haven’t we leaned on him like this all year?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and that was the 1st time Bulger had time
O-line gave him a pocket. He’s got to do better with it
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Steven Jackson is ferocious today
Horrible blocking on 1st down and 5 sets up 2nd and 7 and he fights through the fog for a TD. He’s so talented.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A game plan we can believe in
15 carries for 64 yards for SJ in 17 min of possession
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
first rushing td since
10/19?!?! for Jackson…
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I believe it.
The O-line has done little all season and they look weak today. They’re finding success about 50% – half the players on half the plays…
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
coming up short on 3rd and short is all OL in my book. inexcusable, can never be a winning team with that
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and that 1st & Goal was horrible
On the big running plays, Seattle’s D-line is getting 1-2 yards of push. We haven’t done well in pass protection either.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and their d-line
is not playing well this season
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Craft is a blitzkrieg
He has been constantly in Seattle’s backfield. Offense gets easy points thanks to the fumble
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who is this Jason Craft!
everytime he’s on the line, good things are happening
also says just how much we need a bulky DT
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
funny
but the undrafted signees we’ve picked up this season have been real steals
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulger is overthrowing today
That’s three attempts in the RZ when he’s had time and he’s overthrown all three. He’s not making the most of the protection he’s gotten
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow -
I was actually pissed about the FG and then came to the realization that we will go into the 2nd half with at least 17 points and most likely a lead. Go team!
by arctikphox on Dec 14, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm really glad
the one game i decided not to go to the bar and spend money to watch is the one we decide to score points.
by kevinramsfan on Dec 14, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
oh bad coverage
but the Rams get DAMN lucky…
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fumble on the return
Rams had it at first…and at the bottom…it’s the Rams with the ball!
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he's just not used to having hte ball in his hand
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no excuse
Klop is a flop
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking
Flopkenstein. He’s a floppy Frankenstein
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the possibility of "Klopandrop"
by arctikphox on Dec 14, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Drop-and-whine
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And then Klopfenstein
Jackson runs for a nice first down, Bulger uses time to find a wide open Klop and he just drops it. Not even a real punch to force the fumble. Pathetic.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – losing 3-14 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 17-7 vs. Washington
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 14-0 vs. San Diego
Winning today would put us around 5th, but wins for Cincy and KC would be huge
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is the SUPERBOWL.
I don’t care what anyone says. This IS the big game. After today I am turning off the NFL season. Worst case scenario we were in the game all day and had a chance. I am happy with this reality…LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA …
by arctikphox on Dec 14, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blitzes have been phenomenal today
Atogwe and Craft are bringing perfect extra pressure
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was watching Seattle last weekend, and Seneca Wallace has really great speed running sideways. He outran a lot of New England blitzers, and throws pretty well running to his right. He completed several passes downfield while running for his life. However, the Pats aren’t particularly fast. Credit our guys for having an extra step, perhaps?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Incognito got Bulger hurt on that one
Not bad, but he was limping. Incognito held his block for about a second
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
playing for half time
Smart and conservative to run the draw. Punt, let Seattle take a knee and go into the locker room with the best half of defense we’ve played all season.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
let's be real
if you’re haslett trying to keep your job, you arent risking a turnover with the lead either
by kevinramsfan on Dec 14, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What is Seattle doing?
35 seconds, no time outs, and they’re trying to make a drive. Almost threw us an INT and now Seneca Wallace is hurt. This is a franchise in trouble. I have no idea how Seattle is going to get their team together in the next two years. That was just stupid.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great 1st half
Give the credit to the defense and Steven Jackson. Great stuff to build on. If we win this, do I root even harder to lose the last 2 for the draft?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – losing 10-21 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 17-10 vs. Washington (!)
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 14-3 vs. San Diego
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kansas City improving as the season goes on
Herm Edwards may actually have more job security than Haslett… surprising.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rams running a 3-man defensive front today
Not every down, but apparently multiple times through the game today, they’ve been running a 3-4, with Long, Ryan or Adenyaju, and Carriker on the line, and four LBs. Not sure where Craft is lining up from, but he’s getting into the backfield a lot.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's worked wonders with the blitz
James Hall has gotten a lot of snaps too. Craft is playing off the weak corner side. He’s gotten blitzes as have Atogwe and Witherspoon. It’s been near perfect so far.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
4 Tack, 1 sack, 2 FF, 1 FR for Craft
career game for him today
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, great pickup.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So are they swapping in Little for Carriker?
I heard Little’s name at least once, but I wasn’t sure how he fit into the 3-4 scheme?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
John Carlson is the only option
Someone needs to start manning him up. I think he’s the only person whos caught a ball for Seattle today and he’s caught 4 now.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Seattle noving the ball well now
Time to step it up. They’re running hard and the blitzes haven’t worked as quickly. Time to bottle up the run if we’re going to keep them to a FG.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they ran us ragged last time
Morris and Duckett ran right over us. Time to pressure the middle.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pisa with a great ghost play
Kept his eye on Seneca who tried to run a draw-type play, but had great position to end the drive.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
fells fumbled it
what’s the matter with these guys?
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 1:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
incomplete
Whew. Dodges a bullet on that one
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3rd penalty on Incognito today
He’s a real pro, isn’t he?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulger threw a strike on that one
Good throw, but the coverage was too tight. WRs aren’t doing much to get separation today
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Defense gets a chance to atone for that last drive
Let’s see if we can slow the run and find some of that 1st half blitz success
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Looking very vulnerable on the run
Up the gut for 20+. That was on a 3-man front of Little, Adeyanju, and Long
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
was it a 'passing down'?
if Little isn’t in there only on passing downs, then something isn’t right.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seneca starting to spead it out.
Deion Branch, Koren Robinson… we’ve definitely lost the momentum on D
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bartell laid a lick on Carlson
Not a lot of CBs who can hit TEs like that
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good 3rd down blitz
Still effective on the pass, we just have to work on containing the run
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great catch by Donnie Avery
He’s so fast. I didn’t think he could get to the throw. Credit Bulger for putting it where only Donnie could get to it
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good blocking
Allows Bulger to wait for Jackson coming over the middle
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
passing game
looking alright today afterall
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – losing 13-21 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 17-10 vs. Washington (!)
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 21-10 vs. San Diego
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We have a nearly 8-minute time-of-possession advantage through three quarters:
SEA – 17:39
STL – 25:22
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulger's been smart with the ball
Only disappointments have been when he’s had time and overthrown. He’s done a good job of spreading the ball around and the playcalling has been much better. Of course, when you’re running the ball as well as Jackson did in the 1st half, it makes it much easier to get the passing game going
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he's clicking w/ SJ
on those short throws too
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's also been able to stretch the field
which is important. If he plays like he does against Miami, where he’s accurate but only throws short, the defense can still stack the box with no penalty. But the long throws – like the 31-yarder to Holt – legitimately open up the defense.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bulger almost through his 1st INT
Got lucky that Seattle’s DBs hit each other. Grant and Trufant on coverage
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Going for it on 4th and 6
Interesting
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great route by Torry
Perfect. Ran a 8 yard out and sat down. Veteran WR move
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Incognito is making his name known
4th penalty today
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
although its been said, many times, many ways...
Incognito is dumb as a sack of hammers.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Greco
I’m not so sure I wouldn’t rather have Greco starting at RG next season. this is inexcusable; same thing we’ve been hammering Barron for
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not just the penalties, it’s the timing of them. He has a knack for losing his cool on the opponents’ side of the 50, killing or stalling scoring opportunities. He’s a liability.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit ties it up 21-21 with the Colts…!!!
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who is K. Ratliff?
He’s fielded three punts for the Colts, and fumbled three times. Are we sure he wasn’t a Ram at some point?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh heh heh
probably a Shaw/Zygmunt signee
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“We certainly liked the kid, we had him in the second round of our draft board, but the Bengals snuck in there and grabbed him first.”
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – tied 21-21 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 17-10 vs. Washington
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 21-10 vs. San Diego
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Becht is a four-letter word.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
James Hall with a nice power move
to get to Wallace, but found Koren slanting over the middle. Then Branch on a quick strike
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rams blitzing too much
the blitz has lost a step, or they’re doing a better job picking it up.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
although
guys are for the most part following the ball and getting to it well on defense, kind of thing they’ve been lacking
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that’s been improved over the past several weeks, it seems to me.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A tale of two halves
Defense has been pretty poor this half outside of a 3 and out. Game is about to get tied up. Offense will have a chance, though. Do we want to lose this for draft position? Or do we win it for moral uplift to carry through the offseason?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping for the win, to reward the people who actually showed up to watch.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Duckett is probably as big as any of the D-linemen.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like he did cross the plane of the goal line
but the ref that signaled TD could not have seen that.
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
neither could Little from his vantage point
we’ll need that time out
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we're out of TOs
Bad challenge. We weren’t going to get conclusive evidence to overturn it. Shaping up for an interesting finish.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – losing 28-21 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 17-10 vs. Washington
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 21-10 vs. San Diego
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Two halves -- SJ
In the second half, Steven Jackson has seven carries for eleven yards, and one reception that was called back on penalties.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
didn't go to the run much
in the second half and a couple key penalties stalled out drives. thus the results…
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3 quick incompletions
Leaves a lot of time on the clock for SEA with 2 TOs. Does anyone actually think this is going to overtime?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Seattle has a terrible two-minute offense
I give us a 50-50 shot at least
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was classic Rams offense
Darby, you’ve gotta catch those balls if you want to play at this level
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Arghh… stop blitzing!
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sonfofa…
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Atogwe got burned
He’s got a great nose for forcing turnovers, but a pass defender, he is not
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well this is a new one
I got used to the game’s being over by the first Q, have to adjust to the last minute flops
by VanRam on Dec 14, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So...draft watch
Detroit (0 wins) – losing 28-21 vs. Indy
Cincy (1 win) – winning 20-13 vs. Washington
Kansas City (2 wins) – winning 21-10 vs. San Diego
Seattle (2 wins) – wins 23-20 vs. St. Louis
St. Louis (2 wins) – loses 20-23 vs. Seattle
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Redskins onside kick fails
Cincinatti going to win
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tough loss, but draft stock rises highly
I guess I got what I wanted. Strange game, but the win wouldn’t have gotten us much. The loss (especially today, given what’s going on around the league) proves to be very valuable.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At the same time, it hurts to be outcoached and outperformed in the second half by this raggedy bunch. Seattle made the second-half adjustments, we didn’t.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely hurts
We played such a strong 1st half. Where do you put the blame, taiko? Coaching staff for adjustments? Pass defense? WRs for not getting open? O-line for not opening running lanes for SJ?
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I agree with the radio guys … as good a first half as we had, we didn’t score nearly enough points.
That said, I think the defense ran out of gas a bit in the second half … or, the defensive play-calling got stale. It seemed as though Seattle was picking up our attempted blitzes a lot better, countering with runs or deep passes to isolated defenders.
On offense, clearly we didn’t get the ball to SJ enough … I would have liked to see him catch a few balls in space. A couple of missed plays by receivers – Darby, Avery droped balls, Becht running patterns too short, we lost our third-down mojo.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I got what I wanted
That’s for sure!
by Option27 on Dec 14, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only game left in the draft watch is KC vs.San Diego
Chargers about to go for 2 down 16-21. They need this, an onside, and a FG.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
2 point no good.
Now they’ll need a TD if they get the onside
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SD got the onside!
They have a shot at pulling this out
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even though it hurts
the draft position is worth a lot more than the win would have. If we decide to trade down as some have suggested, we should be able to get a nicer package for #2 than 5 or 6.
by WestCoastBuc on Dec 14, 2008 3:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Especially with the value of the top 4. Stafford, Bradford, Smith, and Crabtree will probably be the top 4 which gives two teams a franchise QB, one gets a Pro-Bowl caliber OT and one gets the best WR in college football (assuming they all declare for the draft since none of them are seniors).
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
San Diego has 3 TOs and 1:13 to drive for a TD for the win
Hell of a finish in this one.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Huge pass to the 20
Chargers are in the game, now. They need a TD though
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1:11 left, ball on the 11
numerologists having a field day
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TD!
This hurts. Unbelievable. KC was up 21-10 with about 2:15 left and they find a way to lose. We were in great draft position. Damn you, Chiefs.
Jay Zygmunt, fire yourself.
by 3k on Dec 14, 2008 3:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
would this be a bad time to mention that i have Philip Rivers on my fantasy team?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, squib kick backfires, KC has great field position. its up to tyler thigpen
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
55 yard FG range now
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
penalty makes it a 50… but they beefed it. boo.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Dec 14, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So does anybody know how
the tie break works for draft order?
by WestCoastBuc on Dec 14, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here is a breakdown
• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage.
• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.
• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.
• If a playoff and non-playoff team end the season with the same winning percentage, the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team regardless of strength of schedule.
by Option27 on Dec 14, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or this is a better explanation
Draft positions are determined by record, the team with the worst record during the regular season picks first and so on. If two teams have the same record, the strength of schedule tie-breaker is used which is the combined winning percentage of all teams on each team’s schedule for the current season. If teams are still tied after strength of schedule has been applied, the division or conference tie breakers are used. If teams are still tied after applying all tiebreakers or if two teams are tied that are in different conferences, a coin toss after the season will determnined which team gets priority.
by Option27 on Dec 14, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I assume that strength of schedule works in reverse then with the team with the weaker schedule drafting 1st. I’m not sure if we would beat KC on that one or not.
by WestCoastBuc on Dec 14, 2008 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Today
If the season ended today the Rams would have the 2nd pick. If we lose our next 2 games we are guaranteed the 2nd pick.
by ksmooth on Dec 14, 2008 3:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully our Rams will not screw up
our 2nd pick by winning at home against Frisco next week. The last game in Atlanta is a given loss.
Steriods is...is bad.
by Handsome Jimmy on Dec 14, 2008 4:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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