Left for dead: Rams lose an ugly one
There's no point rehashing it all now. Go enjoy the rest of the day.
I do want to ask you this, in all seriousness. What do the Rams need to do to get through the rest of the season?
Bench Bulger, start Green? I think they might have to, just to keep him healthy. Would you really be upset if they traded him, for whatever they can get, and signed a FA guy to fill in while a draftee learns the ropes?
Make changes on the line? What changes? Honestly, Alex Barron might be our best lineman right now.
What about the defense? The front needs help, linebackers too. And, you know - I'm angry now so weight this statement accordingly, does Carriker look like a first round draft pick this season? I can't say that I'm particularly impressed with the guy through two seasons...
FIVE TURNOVERS!!! And the Jets made the most of them too. The team with one of the highest sack rates in the league didn't even need to make the sacks thanks in large part to the turnovers.
I was going to add a poll to this post, but what's the question? There's too damn many for one poll. The Rams have to take a long look in the mirror this week, with seven games left to go. Watching this, we look like the winless team. Haslett's got his work cut out for him.
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I think Bulger needs to sit. If that means a burned bridge – it shouldn’t – for next season, then so be it. Look at Gus Frerotte today behind a solid MIN o-line…not great, but proof of what an o-line can do.
Bring Romberg in at Center, knowing that the difference is negligible over Leckey. I’d also think about what Greco could do on the line. Can he be better at T or G, if so, who needs to sit? It’s not often said about our line, but the difference between Orlando Pace of 2006 and 2008 is huge. With all deference to the guy, he’s just not up to speed anymore. That said, the middle of our line is weak, and I think that much of it has to do with the guards having to compensate for the undersized, overmatched Nick Leckey in the middle. AND, our secondary blockers, particularly the FB and RB, just aren’t good enough in pass protection.
The problem with these moves is that it doesn’t fundamentally change the team. Not even enough to have made this a closer game.
by VanRam on Nov 9, 2008 5:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bulger needs to sit...
He’s shell-shocked. This year is lost already, if he has any chance of recovery next year, he needs to take a break from getting clobbered.
That said, I don’t want to see Trent Green start because he is likely going to be sent into retirement (I like him, but he never should have been signed due to his recent injury history). So that doesn’t leave much choice, unless they want to use Brock Berlin…
Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro
by DiscoJer on Nov 9, 2008 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Today
Unfortunately i was at this massacre today in person. This is my second game this year (first was the opener against the Eagles) and the Rams have been outscored 85 to 6. That is amazing to me. This team really has to look in the mirror like VanRam said and ask themselves if they want to compeat in this league. Today was a outright joke and I felt like my team didn’t even care. The Jet fans were actually pretty respectful during such a drubbing. Bulger’s accurancy is downright horrible and looks nothing like the QB i remember. Steven Jackson stood on the sidelines disgusted and I felt for him because I know he wants to be out there and win. Hopefully things can change because we’re back to where we were after week 1.
by ksmooth on Nov 9, 2008 6:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What do we need to do?
1. Get Steven Jackson healthy.
2. Limit the passing game in the offensive gameplan – Green is no better or worse than Bulger. We have to face up to the fact that we will not win games with the QB position this year. The best we can do is not lose games with the QB.
3. Get the ball to Darby some more – reward players that play hungry.
4. Find more ways to bring pressure. Rushing four just isn’t working.
5. Cut Glover.
If none of the above works, start shopping the Rams as a homecoming game opponent for Division I-A football. If we’re going to lay down and die, we might as well rake in the appearance fees.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 6:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Get the ball to Darby?
I’d much rather see the ball go to Pittman more….that is if he’s healthy enough to take the load next week.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
costly, but not catastrophic
Darby practices a week and averages 8 yards per carry. He accounted for two of the Rams’ four first downs of the first half. That impressed me. Yes he was loose with the ball, but you can teach a guy to wrap up. You can’t teach a guy with one leg, like Pittman, to break off 8- and 10- and 14-yard runs.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no worse than
anyone else on offense who get paid LOTS more and have fumbled or otherwise turned the ball over in the last two games
by VanRam on Nov 9, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say that,
as someone mentioned in the game thread today, things are not going to get much better until we replace the front office people responsible for the personnel decisions. I imagine Matt Millen is available – just joking – not sure who we could get but the best bet might be a young guy hungry for a shot at a top front-office job.
I’d like to see us use next year for taking a bath on the salary cap by cutting under-performing veterans such as Bulger along with possibly trading down in the draft for a package of picks. I suppose our first would be pretty attractive to a team that felt they were an impact player away from contending.
I also think we should look into trading Jackson, while he still has value. RBs in this league do not wear well and I think it is unlikely that he will still be contributing by the time the Rams can contend again.
by WestCoastBuc on Nov 9, 2008 7:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree on trading Jackson
Not so much that we can go to the playoffs with him, but he is the one weapon on the field that can keep defenses honest if you’re going to go ahead with the plan of developing a new quarterback, a new offensive line, etc. He gives at least a little cushion for development, as opposed to just running guys out there and getting them massacred.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Jackson has much value
to a rebuilding team. I’m not saying give up on the running game as the Rams rebuild, but it seems to me that they would be far better off with a 21 or 22 year-old running back that they draft than with him. Also, his contract is very cap unfriendly; we’ll probably need the space to sign all of those high picks we’ll be getting the next few years. I think we’d be lucky if we could get anything of much value for him but if we manage it, we should go for it.
by WestCoastBuc on Nov 9, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and what was the deal with the play calling?
did they think our offense was going to be able to just volley with the Jets? Points come too hard for this team to call plays like that. Heads have to roll, not coaches, players’ heads have to roll after this season.
by VanRam on Nov 9, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How many players could the Rams realistically cut? It’s worth a serious look from a salary cap perspective. Look at the turnaround in Atlanta – that was one of the worst locker rooms in the league last year. They went through a major roster purge, and there are a ton of young, no-name players there now helping turn the team around.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Guys, we need to stop with the cut Jackson and/or Bulger stuff.
It’s not feasible nor is it realistic.
Taking into account the above statement that we need to cut off under-performing vets and take the salary cap hit, here’s how it breaks down (you may want to add some names, but here’s 7 I thought of):
(btw, I’m guessing the cap will be $123M next year. It has gone up $7M the last two years, so I think I’m safe in my guess)
Name and cap hit for 2009 and percentage of cap:
Marc Bulger = $18M = 14.6%
Steven Jackson = $17.08M = 13.9%
Drew Bennett = $6.67M = 5.4%
Orlando Pace = $6.42M = 5.2%
Torry Holt = $1.64 =1.3%
Trent Green = $1.4M 1.1%
James Hall = $350k = 0.2%
Now if you want to cut:
Bulger and Holt = 35.08M, 28.5%
Bulger, Holt, Bennett or Pace = 41.75M, 33.9%
Bulger, Holt, Bennet AND Pace = 48.17, 39.1%
The lower 4 + Bulger = 34.48M, 28.0%
The lower 4 + Jackson = 33.56M, 27.3%
Or just the lower 4 = 9.81M, 8.0%
All 7 guys = 51.56M, 41.9%
What does this all mean? Jackson and Bulger are going to be here a while so they better figure out how to make it work.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 9:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm working up the numbers to fully disagree with you
This offseason, the Falcons cut or traded Joe Horn, Alge Crumpler, Warrick Dunn, Rod Coleman, and DeAngelo Hall. And when Mike Vick’s suspension is lifted, he will be cut, too. Arthur Blank had to have taken a major cap hit — not necessarily 40%, but major — in order to facilitate this roster purge. I don’t have the numbers yet but I believe there is a case to be made that the Rams have to do the same.
If you’re going to commit to rebuilding, you can’t afford to have worthless guys in the locker room simply because of their salary cap implications.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice try.
Horn and Coleman were free agents so they didn’t count against the cap.
Crumpler counted 500k (he was on a 2 year deal with 1 year remaining, 1M guaranteed)
Dunn counted 1M (he was also on a 2 year deal with 1 year remaining, 2M guaranteed)
And hall was on a 1 year deal worth $1M. Not sure what was guaranteed, but it’s negligble.
So, by dropping those 5 players, the Falcons had exactly $1.5M count against this year’s cap.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wait, my numbers are wrong....i think.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. my numbers are current. they don't reflect the contracts with the Falcons.
so, in other words, they’re wrong.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yup. your horses need to be held.
For one, Joe Horn was signed to a 4-year $19 million dollar contract in 2007. Joey Harrington (ha! remember him?) was still on the books for $3.5 mil in 2008. Dunn was headed for the last year of a six-year deal, and may not have counted much against the cap. I can’t find a record of Hall’s salary yet.
Nonetheless, they are the poster child for rebuilding, right now.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They seemed to do a good job of minimizing the cap ramifications year to year
At least on the contract’s I’ve actually been able to find so far. And, I think you’re right. At best I’m guessing Dunn cost 1M against the cap.
So, far I’ve accounted for 7M (if we’re going with Dunn = 1M).
Hall to might have been in the last year of a contract. Not sure how long his rookie deal was but I might have included this year. And I bet Coleman didn’t cost more than 3M.
Btw, I got curious earlier and looked up Brett Favre’s contract since he got traded this summer. What a freakin’ deal!!! He had 2 years left on a 10 year contract, but it only had 10M guaranteed, so the Packers are gonna have only a 2M dollar cap hit when it’s all said and done. Not bad.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap!
Oakland’s in cap hell.
Hall signed a 7 year deal with 24.5M guaranteed. That’s a 21M dollar cap hit next year.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders are NOT the poster child on how to rebuild.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DeAngelo Hall - help?
He was a first round pick in 2004, eighth overall. But I can’t find a single story online that details what he signed for, or for how long. Frustrating.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here
Found an article that has some info.
2008 would have been the last year of his contract. Also, here’s another article that speculates what that rookie contract would have been. It’s written before he signed and compares Hall to Dunta Robinson who got 5 years, 8 guaranteed.
So, lets go with that for the time being?
That would be a 1.6M cap hit.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work - and here's more info
Scout.com has a great archive for this kind of thing. Hall apparently got a $13 million signing bonus in 2004. http://atl.scout.com/2/317379.html
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that changed things a bit.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, trying to find old contracts is tough.
Best I’ve come up with so far…
Horn = 3 years left on a 4 year deal w/ 2M guaranteed = 1.5M against cap
Crumpler = 3 years left on a 6 year deal w/ 9M guaranteed = 4.5M against cap
Dunn = I have no idea. It says he signed a 6 year deal in ‘02 and that would have ended in ’07 (’02-‘07) and I can’t find the guaranteed money. but it also says he was released. Either way, I can’t imagine he cost all that much against the cap.
Coleman = 2 years left on a 6 year deal. Can’t find guaranteed money.
Hall = I can’t find his contract anywhere.
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coleman
Signed a 6-year deal for $28.5 mil in 2004, with a $10 mil signing bonus (guaranteed).
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7149066
This is so much harder than baseball.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so that's 3.33M cap hit
And yes. where’s Cot’s for football when you really need it?
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, add Wayne Gandy to the list
He was part of the big roster purge in February last year, along with Crumpler and Coleman. He was originally signed by the Saints in 2003 to a six-year $30 mil contract (only $5 mil guaranteed).
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0302/1517066.html
That’s maybe a $1m cap hit, too, right?
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
833K
Okay.
So we’ve got….
Horn = 1.5M
Crumpler = 4.5M
Coleman = 3.33M
Hall = 1.6M
Gandy = 0.833M
Dunn = ? (I’m estimating 1M)
That equals 12.763M or 11% or the 2008 cap (116M).
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 11:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Changing Hall
Hall now counts 2.6M against the cap.
Making the total 13.763M or 11.9% of the 2008 cap (116M).
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 11:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a lot -- but still less than Bulger by himself.
This has been an interesting exercise. Blank is extremely personally attached to his team, by all accounts, and the destruction of last season hurt him deeply. So you figure he would take about as deep a cut as any owner could be expected to take in one season to try and clean out the clubhouse. And that line is, as best we can figure, 12%. Give or take.
My whole goal was to determine who the Rams could realistically cut. Cutting Bulger alone would cost the Rams more than that. So I think I have to agree, there’s no way that will happen – unless Al Davis starts making the decisions.
However, there is a lot of other contractual dead wood on this roster that must be trimmed — first and foremost, Drew Bennett and Dante Hall. So a longer-term exercise, one for another night, might be how to best spend that 10-12% in housecleaning.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was fun.
We’ll have to see what fat we can cut from the roster. I’m going to go through the roster line by line with a scalpel to see what can be cut and what can’t. No need to come in with a hatchet. Wait, I think I’ve heard that analogy used somewhere before?
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by Tackle Box on Nov 10, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Cool. I’d like to see it.
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by taiko on Nov 12, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vick
best I can figure. He completed 2 years on a 10 year deal with 130M guaranteed. I believe that would be a 104M dollar cap hit.
I don’t see how that’s possible.
Although, I wonder if the years are still coming off the deal even though he’s suspended? In that case, as of the completion of this year he’d have 6 years left on the deal and if released this offseason would count 78M.
btw, how much longer is he in jail? Rotoworld says he could be out in time for training camp next season and also had this tidbit…
DeAngelo Hall, Justin Griffith, and Ashley Lelie said they’d put up some of their salaries as collateral if the Raiders sign Vick, who is hoping to get out of jail in time for training camp next season.
Something tells me DeAngelo isn’t interested in that deal anymore…..
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by Tackle Box on Nov 9, 2008 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It probably depends on whether they’re paying Vick this year. I know they tried to have his contract voided, and failed. They haven’t released him yet because of cap ramifications, but Arthur Blank has publicly said that Vick is welcome to play in the NFL, but not for the Falcons. Which would connote that they will release him when he is eligible to return.
What may end up happening is that Vick will essentially buy his way off the team by renegotiating his contract to something more cap-friendly, if he’s serious about wanting to play. Otherwise… who knows. A protracted legal battle, no doubt.
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by taiko on Nov 9, 2008 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Major typo
I just decided to revisit this since the Trade Steven Jackson topic seems to have resurfaced and I realized that every time I meant to say Jackson in the cut scenarios, I wrote Holt. Not sure why. But adjust accordingly.
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