Torry Holt unhappy?

by VanRam on Oct 31, 2008 9:47 PM CDT in 2008 regular season Comment 7 comments

Torry Holt? Phased out? Oh, words like that hurt.

I don't really feel like that's the case. Let's face it, the Rams passing game hasn't been all that great this season, under Haslett and Linehan. The blocking's been spotty at best and Bulger's clearly off his game (though he did look better last week, it was inconsistent).

On top of that - and I didn't chart plays or anything - it seems like Holt's dealt with much more tight man coverage, drawing double or an opponent's top cover corner on passing down after passing down. Come on, if you're mapping out a game plan against the Rams, even at 0-4, how do you not account for the history between Holt and Bulger?Do you not think a guy like Bill Belichick isn't going to make sure Holt's shut down first and foremost...especially without Steven Jackson in the game. Avery and Burton are unknowns (Avery not so much anymore), Hall hasn't been a good receiver since 2004 and he's making plays all the sudden, and the others are backups.

Holt's drama tires me. All the shit I've had to put up with the Rams lately, and finally get rewarded with some good football... beyond that, I do understand a competitor like Torry Holt wants the ball and naturally lashes out when it's not coming for him, and quite frankly the breaks aren't coming for him either on lots of plays (see that bit above about the Rams pass offense not firing on all cylinders). It makes sense, but still annoying, no?

[and let's admit it, Avery's making plays. how do you not want to get the ball to him?]

Watch. Jackson will come back and teams will start give more attention to Donnie Avery. When that happens, Torry Holt will get the ball more.

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I voted "off base"

I said it here a couple of weeks ago. I am looking forward to the time when he’s not a Ram anymore.

And when I wrote that, i though I might get some flak from the site, but I think it was overlooked.

Look, with my basically un-trained eye, he looks like a shell of his former self. He doesn’t seem eager to get open and often drops catchable passes. I don’t know what it is, but he hasn’t gotten much better the last couple of weeks. He’s really not a deep threat anymore and he’s never been much of a short route receiver. He’s not physical and rarely got extra yardage after the catch anymore because he got used to that Martz thing where he’d just lie down after catching a pass to avoid a big hit.

I like Holt a lot. I really do. But I just don’t see much in him anymore. He’s got his uses but if he’s not willing to accept them, there are plenty of guys who can do the job that is now being asked of him.

And you have to question a guy who starts to bitch right when the team is starting to get good. He didn’t bitch when the sucked, but now that there pretty good, and he’s been virtually invisible, he’s unhappy.

Boo hoo.

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by Tackle Box on Nov 1, 2008 12:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

whoa whoa whoa

i think you guys are dramatizing his so called ‘lashing out’ and ‘bitching’. All he did was answer some questions that reporters asked him, and he’s not making unfair demands like chad johnson.
understandably, he’s frustrated that this season is not up to his usual standards, but its not like he’s not being a team player or going against the team chemistry.

I for one will never wish Torry Holt to leave a Rams jersey. In my mind he’s basically the last remaining star/core player from the glory days and should be offered a spot on this team until the day he retires.
He has always been a fair and logical spokesman for the team, and a quality veteran for the young guys to look up to.

This is just the newspapers hyping up some answers to questions designed to instigate on a slow news day.

by PolancoMcEwing on Nov 1, 2008 1:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i tend to agree with you

the “controversy” itself is annoying…and quite needless

by VanRam on Nov 1, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely it's needless.

He said in today’s column that he hasn’t spoken to the coaches about it and didn’t want it to be a distraction, so instead he talks to the media? Well, that is exactly how to make it a distraction or a controversy or whatever you want to call it. Take it public.

Nice move Torry.

And I have to disagree with PolancoMcE and mpire. No player should be with this or any other team as long as they want. That’s how teams become shitty. By overpaying old players who can no longer get it done. Hey, I’m not saying Holt can’t get it done, but if you say he should be a Ram as long as he wants, eventually he’s gonna lose it past the point of being an asset.

And no, players often can’t make that decision for themselves. The whole Marshall Faulk thing should be an example of this. If he had his way, he would have come back as the starting running back after taking that season off. Fortunately, the Rams were smart enough to tell him “no”. He was well past his prime and they had a much better option in Jackson.

It sucks, but sometimes you have to cut ties with guys who don’t know when to hang it up.

by Tackle Box on Nov 1, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I felt the same way about Isaac Bruce leaving, thankfully it seems we have a couple up and comers that are making that departure easier, plus Bennets lack of playing time is another form of closure.

Holt should be a Ram as long as he wants to be, but comments like this taken in context with his Carolina interview may indicate a pattern.

Or not, who knows.
Mike Singletary may know.

by mpire on Nov 1, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs